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08-20-2013, 10:00 AM | #23 |
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KBB estimates the 5-year depreciation of a '13 M3 to be $37k.
Add their projections for other out of pocket costs, and the total 5-year cost to own is $78k (just over $1 per mile). Moral of the story? Buy used, drive it like you stole it, and keep it for a while! |
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To me the moral of the story is, buy BMW new, and GO TO MUNICH! Doing that essentially erases the 'drive off the lot' depreciation most people end up with, because the car is $5500 less than it would have been. |
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08-20-2013, 10:07 AM | #26 |
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08-20-2013, 10:08 AM | #27 |
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yes and no, depreciation wont' be steady and will flat out at a few major milestones, the E46 would be a good indicator.
I think a good support level would be low $30k range for a clean 6 year old E9X M3. (around years 2014-2015) If car is older and higher mileage it can get as low as low $20k for cars up to maybe 8 years old (around 2015-2017), beyond that, the E9X would be 2 generations removed, then it'll dip hard into the mid-teens (around 2018) E92/E90/E93 pricing differences would compress over time as well. |
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08-20-2013, 10:14 AM | #30 |
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I think the 6MT is pretty much already considered outdated, DCT-type transmissions are already making manuals a thing of the past. I realize there are some who still like the feeling of shifting gears but this is small minority. Just try to find an MT e9x, Ferrari, Porsche or the like, they're incredibly tough to find, buyers don't want them.
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08-20-2013, 10:22 AM | #32 |
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The only US M3 that I know of that held it's value well is the E36 M3 LTW. (Yes the one with the aluminum doors)
I know a guy who purchased a brand new for $45k and sold it for $43k about 2 years ago. And a pristine one ... http://enthusiastauto.com/qsearch/?i...1#.UhOHOYNOkuo |
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I really hope to not make this a dct 6mt thread, but what I meant originally in my statement is that a 6MT will always be adored by enthusiasts. The technology of a manual has not advanced in a long while with the exception of a 7th forward gear (which isn't even necessary). If you take an older performance car, the preferred transmission is the 6MT because by the present time, whatever automatic transmission in it has aged worse than the 6MT. Any automatic gear box from any old porsche or BMW sucks compared to todays 8 speed ZF or DCT, PDK etc. Today's 6MT will probably be more enjoyable than tomorrows version of the DCT. No one is saying that 6MT in an M3 is more current than a DCT in the same car. |
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08-20-2013, 10:22 AM | #34 |
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The only generation of the M3 with a V8 will hold it's value better than most. America loves her V8's. It is also the last generation with all versions being under the "3" tag. There are some unique properties to the E9X generation that no future M3 will likely have.
Keep in mind that resale value of certain cars is tied to emotional connections and the feeling if uniqueness. I think the E9X M3's have that. They will depreciate some, but probably not as much as previous generations.
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I'm in the minority but I'm desparately waiting for the e92 M3 to drop drastically. I got rid of my e92 M3 recently due to unforeseen circumstances and my original plan was to get an M4 but things have changed and now my plan is to get a nice family friendly daily driver like an X6 or X5 and get a cheap 08-09 e92 M3 and mod the living daylights out of it and turn it into a pure track car.
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08-20-2013, 12:03 PM | #42 |
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I wouldn't say plummet but there will be more inventory. I'm in the market for a M but realize that once the M4s come out, people will want the latest and greatest therefore trading in their M3s. When you have more initial supply, the prices will go down.
Anyways this is what I'm hoping for since I'm shopping for one |
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08-20-2013, 12:10 PM | #43 |
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I don't think the release of the F80 will have much impact on values. The E9x will continue to depreciate at a rate similar to the past 5 years. Certain configurations with low miles and in excellent condition will command a premium, as with any car.
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Will the price drop? Yes, of course cars depreciate that’s what they do! However, the price drop isn’t going to be a substantial one. I just saw a 2008 E9x M3 with 91,000 miles on the clock and it was still going for $32,000. In fact, many of the E46 M3’s below 75,000 miles are still going for as much as $25,000.
If anything I believe this is going to be a time for people to upgrade, those who are driving the E46 will jump to the E9x those driving the E9x will upgrade to the M4. However, I truly don’t believe many will leave the E9x platform the first two or three years of production of the M4 if they ever choose to leave. For me personally, I’ve just never been into FI cars, the numbers they put out are downright impressive! Although they will never be as reliable or sound as impressive as the NA, especially a NA V8! I mean think about it, how often do you see an older turbo sports car on the road? In reality, I’m just as curious and anxious to see the numbers for the new M4 as many of you! However, my anxiety is more about being an M car enthusiast and hoping BMW gets the new M3/M4 right (so far they’ve lost some points on the name change) As well as hoping they can close the gap between the M car & the Porsche, but again I’m an M fanatic! Nevertheless, I won’t be purchasing the new M4; going turbo has canceled that ambition for me. I’m going to keep my current E9x as long as she will allow me (hopefully another 10 years or so) she’s an 2009 with 21,800 on the clock I average about 4000 miles a year. My next car will be an NA Porsche either the Cayman S or the Carrera S, unless the whole turbo thing blows up in BMW face and they bring out another NA M car by the time I’m looking to upgrade! Just my 0.2
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