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[rai]

I like the oem tires, but am looking for a less expensive option.

I am not too hard on the car, it's a DD not a track car never been to the track never will.

I am looking for all around performance dry and wet are important, probably more interested in a tire that does great in the rain or at least a tire that does very good in the wet. treadwaer and dry performance is also important.

I still want them to be max performance summer tires, just not to cost $350 each.

Would be interested in the best (or what people prefer) in a tire for $999 a set or less.

I am getting a new wheel so the size will be +20mm more than stock 19" (I currently have the stock 18" combo).

I saw a test where the Hankook V12 did very well for the money and I was thinking the Conti Extreme Contact DW sounds like it may be a good choice.

any suggestions?

Thanks.

[Radiation Joe]

Watch the for sale forum. I'm in the process of selling a near new set of PS2s for $750 shipped. Similar deals are out there. Why compromise the tires on your M3? Lot's of people will tell you their brand is "just as good as OE", but the fact is, they aren't.

[rai]

Originally Posted by Radiation Joe

Watch the for sale forum. I'm in the process of selling a near new set of PS2s for $750 shipped. Similar deals are out there. Why compromise the tires on your M3? Lot's of people will tell you their brand is "just as good as OE", but the fact is, they aren't.

thanks,

I don't want to buy used tires. I mean, yes it would save some money but who is going to stand behind the used tires if there is an issue? Do I want the hastle of second hand tires or dealing with an unknown person on the internet?

[Dannys M3]

I am on my second set of Sessanta's.....we get some pretty good rain storms down here.

[Brosef]

Conti DW's or Vredstein's are both good choices. I have spent some time with the Contis and they're awesome. not quite a PS2, but close.

[calintexas]

"Best" is a matter of opinion. Each tire is a compromise based on what its manufacturer thought would meet a specific market and the manufacturer's ability to meet its targets. Some ride better, some are quieter, some have stiff side walls and are more responsive, some grip better, some work better in the rain, some have more lateral grip, etc. If you look through the first several pages of this forum, you can find lots of opinion and information about what is out there and what's a good value. It should be pretty easy to find 3 or 4 tires that will meet your needs just fine.

Vredestein Sessanta's and Hancook V12's are popular now, but there are others.

[white9duece]

Have you considered the VMR VB3's or the V710's? both sit pretty easy on the wallet and still look clean.

[mexicanmike]

I bought the Vredestein Sessanta's, they are really a really good ride. They are a little stiffer than the PS2's, but also about half the price.

The difference is not as noticeable as I thought it would be, I have been very pleased with the Vredestein so far.

[haze gray]

PS2's wooould be my first choice

[advans]

Budget tires,

Hankook Ventus V12 Evos, i love them, getting second set for my AMG

[1MORELAP]

DWs

[Money2536]

I don't get why people buy cheap tires for their expensive, high-performance sports car. It's like buying a $5,000 TV and $1,000 Blu-Ray player and using the cheapest cable you can find to connect the two. If you are going to buy crappy tires, buy a crappy car. I get that some of the less expensive tires can be decent, but they aren't as good as a PS2 or RE11.

[gthal]

Originally Posted by Money2536

I don't get why people buy cheap tires for their expensive, high-performance sports car. It's like buying a $5,000 TV and $1,000 Blu-Ray player and using the cheapest cable you can find to connect the two. If you are going to buy crappy tires, buy a crappy car. I get that some of the less expensive tires can be decent, but they aren't as good as a PS2 or RE11.

Because cheap doesn't always mean not as good. The Continental DWs have been rated higher than the PS2s by Tire Rack in a recent test and they are WAY less than the PS2. Cost and quality don't always go hand in hand. Just because a tire is less expensive does not necessarily mean it is worse.

I owned the Hankook V12s and they were as just as good as the PS2s overall in my opinion... better in some ways, worse in others (which was also confirmed by Car and Driver in their review). They had similar overall grip but were more comfortable and quieter. The PS2s though had better turn in and felt a little crisper.

So... no tire snobbery needed... paying more is not always getting more. Sometimes that is true, but it isn't a rule and if someone can save 30% to get a tire that is just as capable on the street and 95% as capable on the track and still in the same performance category, why wouldn't they?

[swamp2]

Originally Posted by Money2536

I don't get why people buy cheap tires for their expensive, high-performance sports car. It's like buying a $5,000 TV and $1,000 Blu-Ray player and using the cheapest cable you can find to connect the two. If you are going to buy crappy tires, buy a crappy car. I get that some of the less expensive tires can be decent, but they aren't as good as a PS2 or RE11.

Wow, so you are that guy that absolutely wastes massive $ on Monster HDMI cables and other Monster crapola? Dude HDMI is a digital cable that either meets HDMI specifications or it doesn't. Repeated testing has shown no difference between cheap and absurdly priced HDMI cables.

For tires it all comes down to bang for the buck. I run Vreds personally. Sure once a month or so on the street I can appreciate a PS2 ever so slightly more than a Vred, it just is not worth double the money.

[calintexas]

Originally Posted by swamp2

Wow, so you are that guy that absolutely wastes massive $ on Monster HDMI cables and other Monster crapola? Dude HDMI is a digital cable that either meets HDMI specifications or it doesn't. Repeated testing has shown no difference between cheap and absurdly priced HDMI cables.

For tires it all comes down to bang for the buck. I run Vreds personally. Sure once a month or so on the street I can appreciate a PS2 ever so slightly more than a Vred, it just is not worth double the money.

Thanks Swamp2. I thought about saying something too, but didn't. In the electronics world Monster cables are the equivalent of the dealer installed options/market adjustment add on window sticker.

[Rshane]

Originally Posted by advans

Budget tires,

Hankook Ventus V12 Evos, i love them, getting second set for my AMG

+1 on the Hankook Ventus V12´s. IMO a great value wıth great performance.