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      08-23-2016, 09:43 PM   #1
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      08-24-2016, 10:35 AM   #2
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looks about right, Audi/Mini/Smart/VW sucking it up, BMW a bit below average, Toyota/Lexus miles ahead pulling up the average haha...that's why my other vehicle is a Tundra.

kinda shocked to see GMC and Hummer that high
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      08-24-2016, 10:44 AM   #3
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looks about right, Audi/Mini/Smart/VW sucking it up, BMW a bit below average, Toyota/Lexus miles ahead pulling up the average haha...that's why my other vehicle is a Tundra.

kinda shocked to see GMC and Hummer that high
Yep I own a Tundra Limited TRD. Won't part with it. Its an 07' with 72K miles on it.

on the GMC and Hummer...I am equally suprised although the last two GM vehicles my father law own (still have) have 600K (S10 pick up regular maintenance and changed water pump once) and 200K (Trailblazer...regular maintenance) and he drives normal. Hummer on the OTOH...
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      08-24-2016, 06:55 PM   #4
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I had a Toyota Tacoma a few years ago. Never had a ptoblem with it for the 80k miles I had it. When it comes to Toyota's reliabilty though, it's good to keep in mind, that they are very behind in innovations compared to other brands. They keep their powertrains practically unchanged for many years, throughout various models. Their sales rely on reliability, but their models lack a lot in many other things, compared to the competition.
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      08-24-2016, 07:08 PM   #5
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Z4 FTW! also...infiniti is pretty good. sometimes miss that '08 G35 i had. quality car once you replace the stock suspension.
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infiniti is pretty good. sometimes miss that '08 G35 i had. quality car once you replace the stock suspension.
Did you have a G35S? I found the OEM sport suspension a really good compromise between sporty and comfortable. If my G35 had a better clutch and a little more power I'd probably still be driving it.
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I had a Toyota Tacoma a few years ago. Never had a ptoblem with it for the 80k miles I had it. When it comes to Toyota's reliabilty though, it's good to keep in mind, that they are very behind in innovations compared to other brands. They keep their powertrains practically unchanged for many years, throughout various models. Their sales rely on reliability, but their models lack a lot in many other things, compared to the competition.
yea, so true
their reliability is amazing, but the truth is because really their powertrain has been the same for the past 10000 yrs
early this year I was looking into purchasing a 4runner new, this vehicle still has 4.0L 5 speed auto which was found yrs and yrs ago..and not even HID lights or keyeless as an option, I mean the Corolla has LED headlights
Tacoma finally came out with a new engine + 8-AT recently
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Did you have a G35S? I found the OEM sport suspension a really good compromise between sporty and comfortable. If my G35 had a better clutch and a little more power I'd probably still be driving it.
no, i had the base or journey model. no LSD was a bummer. I did put springs and koni yellow sport shocks, hotchkiss sway bars, 19" coupe wheels. cornered like on rails after that.
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Seems pretty dumb to rank a car by model an not break it down by generation, at very least... The rankings my make (aggregated) can tell you something, but they really need to break model rankings by year (like Consumer Reports) or generation.
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      08-28-2016, 03:21 PM   #10
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Seems pretty dumb to rank a car by model an not break it down by generation, at very least... The rankings my make (aggregated) can tell you something, but they really need to break model rankings by year (like Consumer Reports) or generation.
Here you go.
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Seems pretty dumb to rank a car by model an not break it down by generation, at very least... The rankings my make (aggregated) can tell you something, but they really need to break model rankings by year (like Consumer Reports) or generation.
Here you go.
http://longtermqualityindex.com/vehicles/BMW_M3.html
Yeah, I looked at that, and it does give some insight by year for power train, but what I'm saying is giving a score to a certain model that's been around for decades without breaking up the results by generation really doesn't provide enough info to make a good choice (unless a certain model is consistently bad or good over the entire run since the name started being used).
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      08-30-2016, 08:09 AM   #12
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Toyota innovates behind the scenes and when they bring something to market, it works. They don't put their powertrain products out there for sale in beta (usually, there are some exceptions like the final celica/MR2 engines). Honda has a similar philosophy.

BMW on the other hand...lol the list of public-sale beta tests is nearly as long as the list of engine codes
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