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12-01-2014, 06:55 PM | #23 |
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This is the tech inspection form from my last event. Look under section Safety (no 4-point harnesses). I'm seeing this more and more, maybe this is that the track is dictating rather than clubs themselves, but lately I've had no luck with this harness system at VIR or Road Atlanta.
2014 TECHNICAL INSPECTION EVENT:______________________ Cars must be inspected no more than four weeks prior to the event. Please take this form, along with your vehicle that you have registered, to your local Porsche dealer or Carolinas Region approved service center. You must bring this completed form to registration prior to grid tech. We cannot perform a full tech inspection at the track. Driver(s) be sure to fill in top section and sign / date the bottom. Driver #1______________________________________ Driver #2________________________________________ Auto Make Model Year Number __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ PRE-TECH INSPECTION “DONE PRIOR TO EVENT” VEHICLE EXTERIOR [ ] No fluid leakage [ ] No excessive rust [ ] Side mirrors intact, no cracks [ ] Gas cap secure [ ] Wheels: No bends or cracks [ ] Tires: good condition (3/32” min. tread) no more than 5 years old [ ] Tire Pressure: Front_____________ Rear______________ [ ] Battery secure, positive terminal covered [ ] Electrical Harness [ ] Relays secure BRAKE SYSTEM/SUSPENSION [ ] Brake pads (3/16” minimum) [ ] No visible cracks to edge of rotor [ ] Brake calipers: dry, clean [ ] Brake fluid: clean & full; fresh within 90 days; bled since last track date. Date of last brake fluid change:______________ [ ] Brake lines: dry, good condition [ ] Brake pedal: firm [ ] Brake lights [ ] Steering linkage: no excessive play [ ] Suspension location points & bushings [ ] Shock absorbers: firm, no leaks [ ] Wheel bearings: no excessive play [ ] Ball joints: no excessive play [ ] CV joints: no seepage or looseness [ ] Tie rod ends: tight VEHICLE INTERIOR [ ] Throttle linkage: no sticking [ ] Glass: no cracks, condition does not impair vision. [ ] Doors: must be operational from inside and outside. [ ] Rear view mirror secure, no cracks [ ] Steering: no excessive play at wheel SAFETY:OEM Equipped [ ] OEM Seat Belts; webbing, latches in good condition, tensioner functional [ ] OEM Seats, properly installed and secure. SAFETY:Aftermarket Equipped [ ] Equal restraints for both front seats [ ] Seats properly installed and appropriate for harnesses. All 5/6 pt harnesses require appropriate racing seats regardless of manufacturer. [ ] 5/ 6 pt Harnesses: no more than 5 yrs old (No 4 pt harnesses allowed) [ ] Harness date __________ [ ] Harnesses mounted per PCA Club Race spec. Clip in harnesses must be pinned [ ] Open cockpit cars: PCA/SCCA approved roll bar required, arm restraints and 5/6 point harnesses required. [ ] Roll Bar Padding: required on all roll bar or roll cage installations at any possible contact points for driver and passenger. ENGINE & TRUNK [ ] Fan belt & hoses [ ] Throttle linkage [ ] Oil & gas lines secure, no leaks. No external clamps used on pressurized oil lines. [ ] Hood & deck lids secure [ ] Air Filter/Intake secure [ ] Cooling system, secure, no leaks [ ] Engine mounts [ ] Exhaust system intact, no leaks [ ] No fuel or oil lines exposed in the interior INSPECTED BY: Signature: _______________________________ Printed Name: _______________________________ Title: _______________________________ Shop: _______________________________ City, St: _______________________________ Date: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ________ GRID TECH “DONE AT THE EVENT” IMPORTANT: Please have your car unloaded and ready for the track before you enter the tech line. If your car has lug nuts other than 17mm, 19mm or 13/16", have the appropriate ˝" drive socket with you. [ ] Lug nuts: torque to manufacturers specifications, wheel locks removed, no lugs missing. Wheel Centerlocks fully engaged if applicable. [ ] Gas cap: tight [ ] Wheel bearings: tight [ ] Brake lights: all working [ ] Brake fluid: clean, full, cap tight [ ] Battery secure and positive covered [ ] Front & rear glass: clean, no cracks, unobstructed. Condition does not impair vision. [ ] Seat belts: driver & passenger OEM or acceptable aftermarket harnesses AND appropriate seats installed. Equal Restraints for both front seats. [ ] All loose items removed from interior and trunk, glove box empty or locked [ ] Special accessories (cameras, fire ext, etc...): securely mounted and tethered [ ] Car numbers: on both sides of car in contrasting colors, at least 8" high [ ] Soft Top cars: Broomstick rule, 2” clearance between helmet and protection plane [ ] STICKER REQUIRED: Helmet, Snell: SA2005 and SA2010/SAH2010 only Grid Inspection By:_____________________________________________ I certify that the above inspections have been conducted according to the guidelines set forth. I understand that I alone am liable for the condition and suitability of the vehicle listed for participation in this event. I release the inspector, grid inspector, Carolinas Region PCA and its officials for any liability arising from a failure of this vehicle for any reason, including but not limited to failure of any item listed on this inspection form. Driver #1____________________________________________ Driver #2________________________________________ Date Date |
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12-01-2014, 11:28 PM | #24 |
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Whomever put that in the checklist had good intentions, but is way out of touch with what a Schroth 4pt is designed to do in a crash. The Schroth sled test videos should be enough to convince any rational human being that it is safer than a 3pt OEM seatbelt. SMH...
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12-02-2014, 04:47 PM | #25 |
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I just confirmed that PCA SDR Zone8 chapter will be extending the waiver of 2014 into 2015 for Schroth ASM harnesses as long as your vehicle is below 200 performance points. OP, based on your mods you will probably be close to me at 125pp.
http://www.zone8.org/assets/docs/201...hASMWaiver.pdf AX, TT & DE Driving Events Proposal #1 – Schroth ASM 4-point Harnesses for cars with less than 200 Performance Points - APPROVED Executive Summary: This change would allow the use of Schroth ASM 4-point Harnesses as an alternative to stock 3-point belts in cars that do not require 5- or 6-point harnesses. The Schroth ASM 4-point belts are proven devices that are approved for street use by the DOT.
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12-02-2014, 08:16 PM | #26 |
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The checklist above looks like a club racing checklist adapted to a DE.
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12-02-2014, 08:46 PM | #27 |
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I've got a pair of Schroth ASM 4 points (which have option for 5/6 point being added). They are very effective and serve the purpose I use them for.
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12-05-2014, 08:47 AM | #28 |
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If you are wearing just T shirt the harness is a bit rough on your shoulder. After my first track day without pads I immediately bough them. I do not miss harness grips.
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12-05-2014, 10:24 AM | #29 |
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Doesn't surprise me that a Porsche club is over-doing it. They want to be certain all of the old man members, driving their cars at 4/10ths, are safe and sound.
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12-05-2014, 01:50 PM | #30 |
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LOL although some PCA members say the same thing about BMW owners. I must say, the few PCA events I've been to, their cars were cleaner than mine.
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12-05-2014, 08:27 PM | #31 |
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Advanced group POC drivers are fast. Very. Fast. PCA is a different animal out west, but they still have skilled drivers.
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The one thing about 911s in general is...they are usually driven kind of slow in the novice and intermediate run groups. And once they figure the car out, they run at the front in the advanced groups. So you might blow by 911s in a BMW early on but at the advanced levels...you shouldn't be blowing by any decently driven stock 911 on sticky tires.
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12-06-2014, 09:56 AM | #34 |
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One observation vis a vis speed on track -- there is a huge premium on hp. At my last track day in my admittedly under powered (240 hp) Z3, I was in an intermediate group running with a ZR1 and Z06 where they would utterly crush me on every straight and I'd close down and dog them in corners or tight sections. Back to the discussion, anyone with the ASM Schroth's should be able to upgrade to 5 or 6 points which is nice provided you put the hardware into your car but you'd need a dedicated race seat.
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You could drill a hole in your OEM seat...
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12-06-2014, 03:00 PM | #36 |
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I could drill a hole in my head too but I'm not going to.
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If you just drill a hole instead of a whole, you might be alright.
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Yes, assuming that you use the OEM pyrotechnic seatbelt receptacle.
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