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"The BMW was almost one second quicker around VIR, despite dramatically lower peak speeds on the straights. The RS 4 simply overloads its tires too quickly when the steering wheel is turned. If it weren't for the the four-wheel-drive system ensuring that the power can be applied early at corner exit, the RS 4 would have been farther behind the competition in the LL3 class." I would personally take an RS 4 over the 335 for all around performance. However, I would presume the e90M3 would have significantly faster times around Virginia International Speedway than even the 335 given its higher horsepower, higher red line, and most importantly it's LSD. |
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All those words and you are saying NOTHING. Tha last AMG C, (which was a V8) had 30+ more HP then the E46 m3 as well. Fact is all you Audi fans signed onto a BMW board for what ? FEAR |
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07-15-2007, 03:28 PM | #136 |
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Hey Brucey some of us just love cars - we can love lots of different marques - just because we like an Audi, doesn't mean we can't like a BMW. Why would you not realise that?
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07-15-2007, 03:36 PM | #137 | |
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RS4 will never be better then a M or AMG. |
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07-15-2007, 03:42 PM | #138 | |
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07-15-2007, 03:48 PM | #139 | |
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not valid. if u wanna talk about tuner cars then lets talk supercharged E46 CSL from sweden vs the supercharged RS4. |
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07-15-2007, 03:51 PM | #140 |
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Well, if my driving talent exceeds the new M3's abilities and my nerve exceeds its speed, power and handling then its a bag of shit. Mind you, I can scare myself shitless on a pair of roller skates so I reckon Ill be happy with the M3. ;-).
Im obviously not as good a driver with the nerve to push a 414bhp 4.0V8 capable of 0-60 in 4.4 seconds as hard as the guys worried about the new M3 and as Im not interested in playing Top Trumps, it shouldnt be a problem. |
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07-15-2007, 09:54 PM | #142 | |
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the article never said it was faster in the corners. it overloaded or UNDERSTEERED! which is a trademark of audi. |
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07-15-2007, 09:57 PM | #143 | |
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Look at the entry speed then the exit speed of each corner/sector. That will tell you all you need to know. I'm not sure how you could read that the RS4 was faster around corners/sectors. The most telling being Sector 5, where the RS4 entered at 75.7mph and exited at 93.3mph. The 335i entered at 70.6 mph, a full 5.1mph slower, and exited at 93.2mph, vitrually identical to the RS4 exit speed of 93.3mph.
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07-15-2007, 09:57 PM | #144 | |
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07-15-2007, 10:54 PM | #145 | |
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The 335i also bested the the M Coupe that was lighter and more HP. Balance and neutral handling was quoted as the determining factor. Even if it was the driver variable, the fact that the Audi has a 100+ HP advantage and being Audi's flagship A4 and still being neck-and-neck with a 335 shows that Audi has a ways to go. The day Audi becomes a real contender, Quattro will be an OPTION on their flagship cars, RWD being the standard. The E92 M3 will crush the RS4. Expect 1/4 mile times in the mid 12's, superior braking due to it's lighter weight and better distribution of it, and better handling than the nose-heavy porker. Yes, the Audi will always be more user-friendly and comfy... and that seems to be what this article is saying.... which is only 1/3 of the picture. Yes, the M5 is a porker car as well, but at least it has a reason to be: bigger and more HP without the powertrain, HP leeching losses of Quattro. Magazine's that quote MFG stated times without saying it is MFG times have no credibility. If they went on Caddy's numbers for the CTS-V, they would have a rocket ship. Too bad, even the Factory Drivers from GM couldn't duplicate their estimated 0-60 time of 4.5 and fell flat on their faces.
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And to all those that state that AUDI is more exclusive because there are much less of them around... well... there's a reason for that... use your deductive reasoning!
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I am amazed by the level of participation and interest AUDI owners have in this forum since the magazine posted their review. Never seen it before ever here.
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[QUOTE=moss;1179161]Hey Brucey some of us just love cars - we can love lots of different marques - just because we like an Audi, doesn't mean we can't like a BMW. Why would you not realise that?[/QUOTE]
Because you have nothing good to say about any other brand except an Audi. After all "CAR LOVER" this is a BMW forum. |
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07-16-2007, 10:09 AM | #153 |
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Why don't YOU just add the numbers up yourself.
None the less the fact remains that the RS4 cost almost twice as much and has about 100hp more then the 335. What do you think the NEW M3 will do ? And that's why you all are here. as if it will change anything............ |
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