M3's MPG

XkztreM · 05-21-2007, 04:29 PM

ok so we've probably discussed this a hundred times but some people are saying that the mpg for the new m3 should be better than last yr's model, true?

malter2.0 · 05-21-2007, 09:50 PM

it will be same 16/24

swamp2 · 05-22-2007, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by malter2.0

it will be same 16/24

Not sure where you are getting your numbers from but these are the official BMW numbers for a Euro spec car with EU type standards. There is no reason to believe that the US mpg figures will not show similar improvements.

E46 M3 / E92 M3 / % advantage

Urban:..........17.8 /17.9 / 0.6%
Extra-urban:..8.4 / 9.2 / 9.5%
Composite:....11.9 /12.4 / 4.2%

(all efficieny figures in ltr / 100 km)

southlight · 05-22-2007, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by swamp2

Not sure where you are getting your numbers from but these are the official BMW numbers for a Euro spec car with EU type standards. There is no reason to believe that the US mpg figures will not show similar improvements.

E46 M3 / E92 M3 / % advantage

Urban:..........17.8 /17.9 / 0.6%
Extra-urban:..8.4 / 9.2 / 9.5%
Composite:....11.9 /12.4 / 4.2%

(all efficieny figures in ltr / 100 km)

Since the figures are ltr/100km, it's not an improvement, it's a decline!
But there are two different stages of the old M3 engine. The M3 engine has been adapted to the EU4 standard (european emission standard) in 2006 because it's not allowed any more to sell new cars without that standard in Europe. With the adapation to the EU4 standard the consumption of the engine did raise. Compared to that engine the new V8 really has an improvement in gas mileage:

E46 M3 (EU3)/ E46 M3 (EU4)/ E92 M3 / % disadvantage comp. EU3 / % advantage compared with EU4

Urban:..........17.8 / 20.4 / 17.9 / 0.6% / 12%
Extra-urban:..8.4 / 9.3 / 9.2 / 9.5% / 1%
Composite:....11.9 / 13.4 / 12.4 / 4.2% / 7,5%

Best regards, south

BMW //MPOWER · 05-22-2007, 04:22 AM

Boring!
Stop flogging a dead horse!

swamp2 · 05-22-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by southlight

Since the figures are ltr/100km, it's not an improvement, it's a decline!

Compared to that engine the new V8 really has an improvement in gas mileage:

Well I screwed that one pretty bad, thanks for the clarification/correction. So used to mpg comapred to ltr / 100 km (obviously). In the end, however, like you said, apples to apples the new V8 is more efficient and that is pretty amazing.

swamp2 · 05-22-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW //MPOWER

Boring!
Stop flogging a dead horse!

Don't read the thread!

Epacy · 05-22-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp2

Don't read the thread!

There's nothing else to do these days.....

ase2dais · 05-22-2007, 04:00 PM

I doubt the the v8 M will get better MPG than an e46 M, be REAL!

XkztreM · 05-22-2007, 04:29 PM

i dnt know much bout cars but what kinda mods could u install in that would help the fuel economy some?

skierman64 · 05-22-2007, 08:40 PM

How about a forward firing grapple hook so you can get towed by semi's down the interstate?

swamp2 · 05-22-2007, 11:39 PM

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How about a forward firing grapple hook so you can get towed by semi's down the interstate?

Very James Bond.

e36jakeo · 05-23-2007, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ase2dais

I doubt the the v8 M will get better MPG than an e46 M, be REAL!

How about the fact a 415 HP Porche GT3 gets 17/24. Or that a 505 HP Z06 gets 16/26. Technology fortunately makes engines faster AND more fuel efficient (if that is one of the goals in designing the engine).

Ferrari 4.3 liter V8 in the F430 = 11/16 -- obviously NOT a concern in the designof that 483 HP materpiece!!

mofomat · 05-23-2007, 05:05 AM

And regenarative braking.

ruff · 05-24-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW //MPOWER

Boring!
Stop flogging a dead horse!

What subject isn't a dead horse? Nothing going on with this or any other M3 related forum for weeks. We are all suffering and trying to make do without even the slightest new info to shake a stick at. What has been the average number of visitors on this forum lately...less than 20? If you want the newest info, check out the thread on the hood vents.

esquire · 05-24-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff

What subject isn't a dead horse? Nothing going on with this or any other M3 related forum for weeks. We are all suffering and trying to make do without even the slightest new info to shake a stick at. What has been the average number of visitors on this forum lately...less than 20? If you want the newest info, check out the thread on the hood vents.

lol. well said.

m_bazeepaymon · 05-24-2007, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire

lol. well said.

lol guys its almost june...

fueledbymetal · 05-25-2007, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by southlight

E46 M3 (EU3)/ E46 M3 (EU4)/ E92 M3 / % disadvantage comp. EU3 / % advantage compared with EU4

Urban:..........17.8 / 20.4 / 17.9 / 0.6% / 12%
Extra-urban:..8.4 / 9.3 / 9.2 / 9.5% / 1%
Composite:....11.9 / 13.4 / 12.4 / 4.2% / 7,5%

Best regards, south

So it looks like that's where BMW gets their claim of an 8% improvement with the e92M3 over the E46

Therefore there may not be an improvement for US customers

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