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      11-16-2012, 06:28 PM   #23
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Bro - BP actually isn't considered "Top Tier" gas. Highly recommend staying away from it. BP 93 octane would set the knock sensors off in my S5 and I felt massive degradation and it was confirmed by multiple dealerships that BP is pretty piss poor quality. Generally best to stick to Shell, Chevron and Exxon. Here in the ATL area, Quik Trip is actually super clean and high quality and is slightly more inexpensive. More info here: http://www.toptiergas.com/
i dont use it anyway but they always brag about how there good
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      11-16-2012, 06:32 PM   #24
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Octane alone will not have much, if any, effect on MPG. You would notice more of a difference in performance and/or knocking of the engine.

You paid $4.15/gal in NJ? Boy are the goudging!! I paid $3.79 for my last fill in PA where we generally pay much more than NJ.
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e9x gas mileage sux anyway lol... run all the gas out and double check next time
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Could it be due to the colder temps? Next time try to use Sunoco 94 Octane.
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2315, we understand what you were talking about and your concern about the 3MPG. Pay no attention to remarks like that from the "saint". You were nice to respond but that remark does not even deserve recognition, or a response in my world. Just keep talking about cars, thats what we do here! I return to this website to gain knowledge and to find out about strange things that might happen to the type of cars we enjoy so much. No matter how big or how small, just keep the information coming! We all read it, log it, perhaps use it, when something doesn't seem right. Thanks.
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2315, we understand what you were talking about and your concern about the 3MPG. Pay no attention to remarks like that from the "saint". You were nice to respond but that remark does not even deserve recognition, or a response in my world. Just keep talking about cars, thats what we do here! I return to this website to gain knowledge and to find out about strange things that might happen to the type of cars we enjoy so much. No matter how big or how small, just keep the information coming! We all read it, log it, perhaps use it, when something doesn't seem right. Thanks.
I have no axe to grind with the OP. I simply stated a matter of perspective without being rude, offensive or inflammatory.

Your post blows me away. My reply to the OP refers to the loss of life, homes, business, etc in your country; your countrymen.....not mine. Pretty much lost for words.
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Octane alone will not have much, if any, effect on MPG. You would notice more of a difference in performance and/or knocking of the engine.

You paid $4.15/gal in NJ? Boy are the goudging!! I paid $3.79 for my last fill in PA where we generally pay much more than NJ.
its nuts... i am in central nj but inland from the shore... 3.99 is what 93 octane is currently...

go towards the shore 4.10+ ,

i work up in north west NJ and its 4.35 + for 93 ..
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I don't mean to bust your nuts but considering the impact of the storm on others in your area and elsewhere across the east coast a drop of 3MPG in your premium sports coupe isn't a massive issue!
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I have no axe to grind with the OP. I simply stated a matter of perspective without being rude, offensive or inflammatory.

Your post blows me away. My reply to the OP refers to the loss of life, homes, business, etc in your country; your countrymen.....not mine. Pretty much lost for words.
Help me out here.

Can you reconcile these two posts?
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Help me out here.

Can you reconcile these two posts?
What's to reconcile?
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      11-17-2012, 12:14 PM   #32
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Premium gas hard to come by in North Jersey

http://www.northjersey.com/news/1797....html?page=all
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      11-17-2012, 12:31 PM   #33
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seems very odd that someone would be filling your tank for you in the first place? is this just an east coast thing? ive been pretty much all over the country with exception to the east coast and never once have seen a full service station still active.

maybe go buy some fuel additive for improved octane and call it a day? not sure what to help with here sorry
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      11-17-2012, 01:23 PM   #34
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seems very odd that someone would be filling your tank for you in the first place? is this just an east coast thing? ive been pretty much all over the country with exception to the east coast and never once have seen a full service station still active.

maybe go buy some fuel additive for improved octane and call it a day? not sure what to help with here sorry
Here in NJ, it's full service so they fill for us (by state law... not because I'm lazy lol). I use the Hess station right next to my work because the guys know me and my M3 and they let me pump my own gas.

But my issue is that the pump at the BP that I filled up at. The pump only has one nozzle and 3 buttons. One for Reg. One for Plus. The last for Prem. I saw the attendant push the button for Prem. My receipt indicates they charged me for Prem. God only knows what the hell was in the tank of the Prem...

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      11-17-2012, 01:33 PM   #35
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Off topic - but for those who live in areas where gas stations are all full service...do you give a tip every time? Full service is foreign to me.
I didn't know places still did that.
Only Jersey. You are not allowed to pump your own gas. Totally stupid.
It actually creates jobs so it helps the economy.
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      11-17-2012, 04:16 PM   #36
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Just a thought but i heard because of the whole hurricane situation gas was not mixed with the usual 10% ethanol that it usually gets. This could probably be a reason why your tank emptied quicker.
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      11-17-2012, 05:01 PM   #37
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you're likely okay, just try to get some 93 in there to dilute the current tank.
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Octane will have absolutely no effect on mpg when drive non-aggressively or aggressively for that matter. Minor effects yes but not an average of 3 gallons. A couple things though

GIven its low bottom end torque, if you are driving it too slowly to get up to speed, it actually uses more gas than if you have a semi-aggressive departure from a standstill to speed. It takes more work to get to speed in the lower gears at lower rpms.

Second, given the big storm, I would pull your air filter and see if it is clogged or dirty. That is one thing that really can knock 3 mpg off easily.

Last, sure, there is bad tanks and quality, but its not the octane but rather the gas itself may be bad which is possible given all the shortages etc.
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What's to reconcile?
If you don't see the contrast, I can't help you.

On the one hand, you insult the OP by using the term 'bust your nuts' and then disparagingly dismiss his 'premium sports coupe.

Then you feign ignorance of the implications of your post and can't understand why you were insulting.

All the while ignoring the whole point of the OP's question, which was explained in the first post, and again by the OP in post #19.

And you don't get this.

I see.

Good luck in the online community.
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      11-17-2012, 08:30 PM   #40
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Unions. Blame them for the fall of the twinkie.
and schools, government, hospitals, etc...

OP, it could well be that they are pumping regular gas only.
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      11-18-2012, 02:25 AM   #41
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Doesn't sound like an octane problem but, an Ethenol problem. Octane won't affect your mileage much however, Ethenol will. Ethenol has a much lower energy rating, meaning it takes more to make the same power.
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Doesn't sound like an octane problem but, an Ethenol problem. Octane won't affect your mileage much however, Ethenol will. Ethenol has a much lower energy rating, meaning it takes more to make the same power.
All gas, save a few stations in a handful of states uses 10 percent ethanol so this is not an ethanol problem
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seems very odd that someone would be filling your tank for you in the first place? is this just an east coast thing? ive been pretty much all over the country with exception to the east coast and never once have seen a full service station still active.

maybe go buy some fuel additive for improved octane and call it a day? not sure what to help with here sorry
Guess you really haven't been all over the country after all. New Jersey and Oregon both do not allow self service. And yes, it does create jobs, technically speaking, but they are jobs that the economy would not normally support, except when artificially created by Government regulation, and those "jobs" actually cost everyone in those states in higher gas prices. No telling how many jobs are lost due to lost economic activity due to pointless make-work, non-productive jobs like pumping gas.
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seems very odd that someone would be filling your tank for you in the first place? is this just an east coast thing? ive been pretty much all over the country with exception to the east coast and never once have seen a full service station still active.

maybe go buy some fuel additive for improved octane and call it a day? not sure what to help with here sorry
Here in NJ, it's full service so they fill for us (by state law... not because I'm lazy lol). I use the Hess station right next to my work because the guys know me and my M3 and they let me pump my own gas.

But my issue is that the pump at the BP that I filled up at. The pump only has one nozzle and 3 buttons. One for Reg. One for Plus. The last for Prem. I saw the attendant push the button for Prem. My receipt indicates they charged me for Prem. God only knows what the hell was in the tank of the Prem...
I hate the stations where it's just one nozzle and three buttons, I always think every button gives 87. Anyways, thanks for keeping track of all this data and uploading it to benefit others
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