BMW adds 5w30 to M engines oil list

5soko · 10-05-2013, 07:48 PM

Credit member B767capt on m5board for bringing this to attnt.

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...ngineOils.aspx

Any oil gurus here? Interested in hearing the difference between the two oil weight as they same big in difference.

Endless619 · 10-05-2013, 07:55 PM

When you read it...

* Does not apply to M vehicles - see below for further information.

Then it says it does.

or
Castrol EDGE Professional OE 5W30 Synthetic Engine Oil
BMW part number 07 51 0 037 195

Just stick with 10/60. It's super cheap anyway.

BMRLVR · 10-05-2013, 08:17 PM

It is definitely a better fit for the tight clearances than the 10W60! This proves that the thought process on recommending the M1 0W40 was a step in the right direction! The M1 and the Castrol 5W30 they are recommending have very similar properties!

LucWerkz · 10-05-2013, 08:18 PM

Where's LONGWONG?!?!?!

kawasaki00 · 10-05-2013, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Baron

Where's LONGWONG?!?!?!

He is off in the bushes

FogCityM3 · 10-05-2013, 08:36 PM

Kawasaki, BMRLVR and others were 100% correct on the oil issue. Actually I would not be surprised if the publicity of the blown S85 engines/rod bearing wear and the S65 rod bearing clearance threads and oil threads got BMW's attention (they like many other corporations are on social media boards, as we know). Moreover, another board member getting a check for more than full value of his M3 which had spun bearings and ruined his engine is another indication that something is amiss that BMW/M is aware of. I don't think it's coincidental that the oil options have changed and is a big vindication of the opinions of experts on this board. Thanks for your contribution to the community. In a strange way, I even thank longwong too..lol.

gatorfast · 10-05-2013, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Endless619

Just stick with 10/60. It's super cheap anyway.

Compared to what? It's actually very expensive for oil.

gatorfast · 10-05-2013, 10:01 PM

Also, does anyone else get a Diesel engine oil listed for part number 07 51 0 037 195?

SuckaGDog · 10-05-2013, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Also, does anyone else get a Diesel engine oil listed for part number 07 51 0 037 195?

It is the oil they use for diesel models that is recommended.

aussiem3 · 10-05-2013, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Endless619

Just stick with 10/60. It's super cheap anyway.

It's blood expensive at $39/ltr in Australia. I am one of those lucky ones that gets them very cheap. BMW is ripping the customers big time in Australia. I don't know about North America.

So an oil change in Australia will cost you close to $600 depending where you go.

aussiem3 · 10-05-2013, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMRLVR

It is definitely a better fit for the tight clearances than the 10W60! This proves that the thought process on recommending the M1 0W40 was a step in the right direction! The M1 and the Castrol 5W30 they are recommending have very similar properties!

Quote:

Originally Posted by kawasaki00

He is off in the bushes

Good on you guys for sticking to your guns. Someone has been watching and probably didn't like the bad publicity it was generating given the bearing issue dates back to 2001 - and that's a decade a ago. That's a very very long time to ignore an issue like this.

Jaymax85 · 10-06-2013, 12:55 AM

Hmm decisions decisions

lsal · 10-06-2013, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Baron

Where's LONGWONG?!?!?!

Was thinking the same lol!!!

motortrend · 10-06-2013, 01:23 AM

This feels like m5board with all the oil discussions.

aus · 10-06-2013, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aussiem3

It's blood expensive at $39/ltr in Australia. I am one of those lucky ones that gets them very cheap. BMW is ripping the customers big time in Australia. I don't know about North America.

So an oil change in Australia will cost you close to $600 depending where you go.

Damn dude!!!! That's CRAZY money.
We get it for around $12 bottle, and it's called "Liquid Gold" by many. You must call it "Liquid Diamond" in Australia!!!

.

aussiem3 · 10-06-2013, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus

Damn dude!!!! That's CRAZY money.
We get it for around $12 bottle, and it's called "Liquid Gold" by many. You must call it "Liquid Diamond" in Australia!!!

.

We might be able to get diamond a lot cheaper here ... That's the recommended retail price and you get charged the full amount. Take that now.

///M Power-Belgium · 10-06-2013, 05:33 AM

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KmndntKlink · 10-06-2013, 07:26 AM

Guess what I'll be asking for at my next oil change! Seems like BMW has @ least been listening, but doesn't want to own up and do a recall. even the alpina is 5w-30. Can't really blame them as most people will be trading these in anyway and its an expensive fix.

aftershock141 · 10-06-2013, 09:11 AM

I just sent the link to my bmw service advisor to get his input.

I wonder why the part number listed is for diesel applications....

5soko · 10-06-2013, 09:27 AM

10w60 to a 5w30 is a huge jump. Im wondering if this is a mistake and if they wanted to list the new turbo engines for 5w30.

They still list 10w60 as the first choice and the 5w30 as a alternative.

kawasaki00 · 10-06-2013, 11:00 AM

BMRLVR · 10-06-2013, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5soko

10w60 to a 5w30 is a huge jump. Im wondering if this is a mistake and if they wanted to list the new turbo engines for 5w30.

They still list 10w60 as the first choice and the 5w30 as a alternative.

Not really that huge of a jump. The TWS is a light 60, really a 50 when new and it shears down into the high 40 range after a few thousand miles. The 5W30 they are recommending is a heavy 30, almost a 40 really, so the oil grade is not changing much.

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