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08-08-2010, 11:30 PM | #1 | |
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Came across a nice article today on Inside Line. http://www.insideline.com/bmw/m3/201...mw-m3-e92.html Enjoy Quote:
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08-08-2010, 11:43 PM | #2 |
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Not to start an all out war here, but these types of articles have become predictable. Old car is slower but more fun to drive, new car is faster, but is larger, heavier, and feels more isolated and therefore is less fun to drive.
The fact is, if the basic 3 series had remained a smaller, lightweight car, it would have lost sales to competitors. The market has over time forced these cars into what they are. Give BMW credit for keeping its formula for the 3 series alive, over multiple generations and multiple advancements in technology. As a person who works in an industry where we design, certify amd fabricate components, you come to appreciate a company like BMW that has managed to define and capture what each of its segment cars are, and has kept that fomula alive from generation to generation. Certainly, the E30 M3 and any basic E30 are legendary cars, but to me, the real story is how BMW has been successful at maintaining that DNA through generations. So in summary, I don't completely agree with the article from Edmunds. |
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08-09-2010, 09:17 AM | #3 |
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@ piloto: Well stated. Purist enthusiasts often can't deal with change. My E30 was fun, but the modern car is much faster and vastly more useful.
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just look at the limit sale number for z4m coupe, gt3, etc. those are great cars, but you won't survive in this business selling only those kind of cars. |
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Seems pointless to compare the two. They're answers in response to different questions. Totally different in circumstances, laws, regulations and market conditions. Some will complain about the weight difference, but I'd bet that the two are from different planets in terms of safety. People complain about iDrive, iPod interface, the DCT shift speed, etc. on the new car but nostalgia means all is forgiven on the old one. |
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08-09-2010, 01:39 PM | #12 |
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@pil.... well said :-)
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08-09-2010, 02:55 PM | #14 | |
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I used to have a 240Z and Im sure it would read the exact same as teh article above if you compared it to a new 370Z.
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08-09-2010, 04:01 PM | #16 |
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Anybody ever notice that Edmunds always gets the slowest times? E9X M3 gets 0-60 of 4.6 secs? WTF, they always, always have the slowest times out of all reviewers, like they either don't know hot to drive, or purposely get slower times.
This article was nothing but filler, instead of just mentioning the E36 and E46 and doing a brief on them, how about testing them all and givng them a thorough critique against one another. Like they should do with the M5s or the 5 series, or the 7 series. |
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08-09-2010, 08:28 PM | #18 |
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Very good and fair article. It is not very difficult to compare any two cars, but it is rare to attempt linking the car design and performance to the Zeitgeist.
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Separated by 24 Years but united by one name: BMW M3
http://www.insideline.com/bmw/m3/201...mw-m3-e92.html
Celebrating 25 years of the sports car with a backseat. |
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