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      01-14-2008, 10:27 AM   #67
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^^ Very good points Footie.
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      01-16-2008, 05:40 PM   #68
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T-Bone is correct in saying that all of the competition have very similar performance with the exception being the C63 which is a little ahead of the chasing pack. And he is 100% correct in saying that the M3 is the class act when it come to finesse and dynamics, we do know that neither the RS4 or C63 are as capable on the track but we will have to see if the IS-F can surprise us all though based on early previews it doesn't look like it will bother the M3 is this department.

So on this glowing report of the M3 it would bag the question why is there a need for the rest of them but like gbb357 has already stated some people dislike the BMW brand, while other may not like the current styling and because of this there will always be a market for the rest of them.

And in any case each of the others aren't bad things to drive and each offer something different to the BMW, Mercedes has more performance and the image, Audi has all weather performance and the Lexus has reliability and value for money.

At this price bracket there isn't really any bum buys.
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      01-19-2008, 06:03 PM   #69
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That looks connected to me.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...=107933&page=5




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      01-19-2008, 07:52 PM   #70
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Yes, i've seen this before.



The part with the white arrows is the part that's connected to the actual muffler. The part with the red circle is the actual tip that is not connected to anything but the actual muffler. So there's is no open space in between so you can't put your hands through like that famous pic from Edmunds. I have not seen it in person, a friend of mine just told me this, so don't sue me if i'm wrong.
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      01-19-2008, 09:53 PM   #71
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The part with the white arrows is the part that's connected to the actual muffler. The part with the red circle is the actual tip that is not connected to anything but the actual muffler. So there's is no open space in between so you can't put your hands through like that famous pic from Edmunds. I have not seen it in person, a friend of mine just told me this, so don't sue me if i'm wrong.

Don't worry, I am in Detroit now. I will go see the ISF and take some photos of the tips at the car show so we can resolve this.

BTW, Detroit people cannot play poker, I just won a set of tires tonight
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      01-19-2008, 10:54 PM   #72
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Cool. Here's another pic.



I'll have to wait till the NYAS in April or when my friend calls me from a local Lexus dealer where he works to let me know when they get one in before i can see one in the metal.
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      01-19-2008, 11:03 PM   #73
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Here you go. Don't bother to find out, it is not connected.



But it is true dual exhaust on each side.
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      01-20-2008, 08:17 PM   #74
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The NBC coverage of the NAIAS said that base price for the IS-F would be 42t.
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      01-20-2008, 08:40 PM   #75
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The NBC coverage of the NAIAS said that base price for the IS-F would be 42t.
Yeah right, i wish. You can't even get a fully loaded IS350 for that price, which is $44k for a fully loaded IS350.
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      01-20-2008, 09:46 PM   #76
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The NBC coverage of the NAIAS said that base price for the IS-F would be 42t.
I saw on another forum that was on. Wish I had known. Any more showings? Online?
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I saw on another forum that was on. Wish I had known. Any more showings? Online?

Not sure if it will be on again. It wasn't really all that good. If you read the general cars section here, you'd be up on pretty much everything they talked about, and probably know more.

It was nice to see a couple of upcoming cars in HD video. The X6 looks great. I didn't see the M3 as i was flipping back and forth during commmercials in the football game.
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