Observation of 1M vs M3

[lcrain]

Originally Posted by meyergru

Since there are supposedly ~6,500 1M built, there would have to be at least 650,000 M3 convertibles that are driven by women according to your logic.

For reference: Until end of production, I guess there will be at most 15,000 M3 E93 built.

The production numbers for the whole M3 E9x line will likely not exceed 100,000 cars of which ~22% are convertibles, this would be less than three times as many as there are 1M coupes.

What I meant by my comment is that I would bet the # of women driving an M3 convertible is at least 100X the amount of women driving an M3 convertible. Meaning to say I bet there are very few women driving 1Ms. Unless this woman is a big enthusiast. Every where they ended up they sold out. M3s could be found sitting on any lot, which the 1M could not. Wonder how many loaded dudes bought their wives M3s because she liked the price tag.

[ching]

The 1-series is a weirdly proportioned car. It's just stubby, with some Pontiac-esque flares. I think I would've like the 1M more if it were significantly lighter than a M3.

[Giggs]

Originally Posted by snowmants

I just came across this picture and it made me realize how much more I like the overall appearance of the m3 over the 1m. Dont get me wrong, i love the 1m too and would love to have one! i just think the M3 looks so much more sleek.

Agreed. I have to say though, Powerbeast has one sweet looking 1M!

[PunjabiM3]

Oh what a thread. Pretty obvious that M3 owners will pick the M3 and 1M owners the 1M. Having owned an e92 M3 and now a 1M (both modded), in my opinion the ONLY thing I liked better in the M3 was the sound of the V8. And this only with exhaust. Stock I think the 1M's exhaust note is better than the e9x M3's (too quiet). 1M looks so much more aggressive than the M3, is more nimble, and I love the exclusivity!

[DARK_M3]

Could they make the headlights any BIGGER lolz

[ssabripo]

Originally Posted by PunjabiM3

Oh what a thread. Pretty obvious that M3 owners will pick the M3 and 1M owners the 1M. Having owned an e92 M3 and now a 1M (both modded), in my opinion the ONLY thing I liked better in the M3 was the sound of the V8. And this only with exhaust. Stock I think the 1M's exhaust note is better than the e9x M3's (too quiet). 1M looks so much more aggressive than the M3, is more nimble, and I love the exclusivity!

so basically, you are acting in the same defensive and myopic manner that you accuse some M3 owners of being....is that it?

enjoy your car, stop worrying about what others think.


ps- @ looking more aggressive

[runnerguy1979]

I will never understand the mostly American idea that small(er) cars equate to being girly/feminine or driven by girls. (and the larger the car, the more masculine, manly and/or better).

Not only is this belief absurd and steeped in stereotypes but, I think it keeps many Americans from enjoying such great driving cars as the miata, s2000, 1-series, fiat 500, mini, etc., etc. .... I could keep naming many others.

For pure driving fun-factor, you simply can't beat a smaller/lighter car.
I say this as a fellow M3 owner, btw.

[Maniac992]

Originally Posted by runnerguy1979

I will never understand the mostly American idea that small(er) cars equate to being girly/feminine or driven by girls. (and the larger the car, the more masculine, manly and/or better).

Not only is this belief absurd and steeped in stereotypes but, I think it keeps many Americans from enjoying such great driving cars as the miata, s2000, 1-series, fiat 500, mini, etc., etc. .... I could keep naming many others.

For pure driving fun-factor, you simply can't beat a smaller/lighter car.
I say this as a fellow M3 owner, btw.

+1

IMO...
Styling: I think the M3 takes this hands down, its a great looking car. Although as an owner of a BSM 1M I actually kind of like the muscular (and slightly obnoxious) look and feel.

Engine: I also love the NA 8 in the M3, but lets face it, its history now. ALL M engines going forward will be turbo, so lets get off the "real M engine" rubbish. Besides I love the 1M engine, they have virtually eliminated turbo lag and the power is always at hand and readily usable across the RPM range.

Performance: Pretty close on most straight line metrics, 1M faster at the start, M3 catches up. And with the exact same underpinnings, suspension, tire/wheel setup they are probably pretty close on cornering as well.

Track: I can only speak for the 1M but it is fantastic on a track. Race car driver I had with me last time I was on track was blown away by the 1M, said he much preferred it to the M3 on the track.