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      01-31-2008, 06:04 AM   #1
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M3 secret menu?

hi,
I would need a little help. One my friend, into an Italian Forum (thank you Nicola Spiazzola) teached me about the secret menu that also an owner could use, using some steps with the ig.key and the partial km button.
Sure you have already spoken about this secret menu in this Forum. Can someone help me finding the thread?

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      01-31-2008, 06:10 AM   #2
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Wow! Can't wait to get a hold of this secret!
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      01-31-2008, 06:38 AM   #3
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Wow! Can't wait to get a hold of this secret!
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      01-31-2008, 07:19 AM   #4
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Savage, I doubt this has been discussed here before...

From a quick search, it seems: press & hold the iDrive dish thing for 10 sec.; clockwise 3 clicks; counter 3 clicks; clock 1; counter 1; clock 1; press once (Let us know if this works guys )
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      01-31-2008, 07:31 AM   #5
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yeah, this is for E60 5 series, about the only thing it tells you is what software version CIP the car has,
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...23771&posted=1
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      01-31-2008, 07:38 AM   #6
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Let us know if this works guys
I can have an answear for you in 2-3 hours
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      01-31-2008, 10:12 AM   #7
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later this evening I will take the time to check what is possible to know from that menu.At least for what they told me, the true speed value. But I hope much more datas. To enter is not necessary to use that knob, but to use the key inserction and to push the reset button of the partial km indicator. More news asap.

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      01-31-2008, 12:30 PM   #8
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Interesting. I might have to try to find it as well
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      01-31-2008, 01:26 PM   #9
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Sounds cool, would be great if you guys work it out in the coming weeks, then I"ll know what to do when mine gets here
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      01-31-2008, 03:03 PM   #10
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i dont know about what bmw's does, but in a mercedes the "secret" menu aka service menu has settings that technicians use while servicing your vehicle, ie maintenance counter, dyno mode, service history, etc. id bet bmw's is similar.


thats the only way you can fully disable traction control in a benz btw.
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      01-31-2008, 07:21 PM   #11
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Savage, I doubt this has been discussed here before...

From a quick search, it seems: press & hold the iDrive dish thing for 10 sec.; clockwise 3 clicks; counter 3 clicks; clock 1; counter 1; clock 1; press once (Let us know if this works guys )
Either I'm stupid or this doesn't work... Tried it today but got confused by the last "press once". And what is this talk about ignition? Give me a detailed step-by-step guide and I'll try it out
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      01-31-2008, 07:40 PM   #12
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It's really sweet guys...it delimits the speedo and gives an extra 50hp. Oh wait....I'm dreaming!
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      01-31-2008, 07:42 PM   #13
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I just tried it and it works, here's what I got:
CApplikation
EngineType= 19273
VehicleManufacturerCodingIndex= 11
SystemECUHardwareNumber= 000009170748
ManufacturerCatalogueVersion= 000.010.148
DateOfManufacture= 1.9.2007
OperatingSystemVersion= 000.000.000
ECUHardwareVersion= C5
FunctionalSoftware Version= 007.199.001
SystemSupplierIndex

and then other menus with similar numbers;
CHost
CTuner
CAsk
CGateway
CTMC
Position
Hidden SIDs
System Inte...

Anyone knows what this means????
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      01-31-2008, 08:03 PM   #14
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[quote=

Anyone knows what this means????[/QUOTE]

I have not time now to make a complete report in English, but cool is that you can see water temperature, true digital speed, true rpm speed, true consumption,date and week of manufacturing,residual amount of liters in the fuel tank and many other factors. Sorry too late now for me to make the translation of what I found. Sure I will do in another moment.
Here the list:

1.0 Numero di telaio
1.1 Contatore KM

1.2 Parts number

1.3 Coding-, Diagnostic- and Bus-index

1.4 Data di Produzione (Calendario settimana/anno)

1.5 Hard- and Software status

1.6 Stato dell’iniezione, contatore cilindri, fattori del motore.

2.0 Combisystem Test

3.0 contatore intervallo manutezione

4.0. (?)

4.1 Consumption in liters/100kms. (?)


5.0 Consumo istantaneo di benzina in l/100km

5.1 Autonomia instantanea in KM.


6.0 Litri presenti nei due serbatoi es. 123321 =12,3liters left 32,1 liters right

6.1 Litri presenti nel serbatoio in totale

6.2 Show value of Fuel guage. 1= both senders OK, 2= sender failure, 3=ti signal unplausible (no reading) (?)

7.0 Temperatura instantanea liquido refrigerante

7.1 Temperatura instantanea esterna

7.2 Giri del motore in digitale.

7.3 Velocità instantanea in digitale

8.0 Hexadecimal readings of menu 7.0 to 7.3

9.0 Voltaggio batteria

10.0 Codici nazione

11.0 Unit codes (?)

12.0 No function

13.0 Gong test (?)

14.0 - 14.4 On board diagnostic codes. Es. 000000 = no failures

15.0 - 18.0 No function

19.0 On/Off for Test menu.

20.0 Fattore di correzione per consumo di benzina

Formula per il fattore di correzione:

Shown consumption x 1000 / user defined consumption

Push the trip reset button to begin the correction. Numbers count up from 0-9, when correct number shows
push trip reset button.

20.1 Sets 10ths. for consumption factor

20.2 Sets 100ths. and 1000ths. for consumption factor

20.3 Saves the new consumption factor and shows new value

21.0 Software reset. (accade lo stesso disconnettendo la batteria)

L'unico accorgimento da fare, secondo me è di lasciar perdere i menu' 20 e 21 poichè non mi sono chiari, per il resto buona navigazione

bye bye now
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      01-31-2008, 09:48 PM   #15
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But which one is the setting that gives you 100 more hp?
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      02-01-2008, 12:48 AM   #16
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up up down down left right left right b a b a select start

OR

down up R L Y B
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      02-01-2008, 01:36 AM   #17
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      02-01-2008, 01:53 AM   #18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinoOrtega View Post
I just tried it and it works, here's what I got:
CApplikation
EngineType= 19273
VehicleManufacturerCodingIndex= 11
SystemECUHardwareNumber= 000009170748
ManufacturerCatalogueVersion= 000.010.148
DateOfManufacture= 1.9.2007
OperatingSystemVersion= 000.000.000
ECUHardwareVersion= C5
FunctionalSoftware Version= 007.199.001
SystemSupplierIndex

and then other menus with similar numbers;
CHost
CTuner
CAsk
CGateway
CTMC
Position
Hidden SIDs
System Inte...

Anyone knows what this means????

those version numbers are necessary because car companies typically update the software for vehicles every so often for various reasons. technicians need to be able tell what version of the software your vehicle has so they know whether or not its up to date. as for the other things, tuner gateway etc. if your vehicle has any kind of electronic assist ie tele-aid, onstar, (even just navi) etc those numbers are required for authorization so they know the vehicle is actually yours and everything about it.

OBD III has been in the works now for several years, still hasnt been put into use yet.....possibly some of the stuff in there could be for obd III functionality, but who really knows or cares.
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      02-01-2008, 04:33 AM   #19
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I tried the menu.....

it is interesting. You can drive and see for example the water temperature.
More news asap...
Here some examples:
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I have not time now to make a complete report in English, but cool is that you can see water temperature, true digital speed, true rpm speed, true consumption,date and week of manufacturing,residual amount of liters in the fuel tank and many other factors. Sorry too late now for me to make the translation of what I found. Sure I will do in another moment.
Here the list:

1.0 Numero di telaio (chassis number)
1.1 Contatore KM (partial km-mph/meter)

1.2 Parts number

1.3 Coding-, Diagnostic- and Bus-index

1.4 Data di Produzione (Calendario settimana/anno) (production date-week and year)

1.5 Hard- and Software status

1.6 Stato dell’iniezione, contatore cilindri, fattori del motore. (injection status-cylinders and other engine factors)

2.0 Combisystem Test (test of the instrument panel-very nice to see.I will post a video)

3.0 contatore intervallo manutezione (maintenaince interval)

4.0. (?)

4.1 Consumption in liters/100kms. (?) (lt/100 km consumption)


5.0 Consumo istantaneo di benzina in l/100km (instantaneous consumption)

5.1 Autonomia instantanea in KM. (instantaneous fuel autonomy)


6.0 Litri presenti nei due serbatoi es. 123321 =12,3liters left 32,1 liters right
(lt of fuel in the two fuel tanks)

6.1 Litri presenti nel serbatoio in totale (grandtotal oif liters in the tanks)

6.2 Show value of Fuel guage. 1= both senders OK, 2= sender failure, 3=ti signal unplausible (no reading) (?)


7.0 Temperatura instantanea liquido refrigerante (instantaneous water temperature)

7.1 Temperatura instantanea esterna (oustisde instantaneous temperature)

7.2 Giri del motore in digitale. (digital RPM)

7.3 Velocità instantanea in digitale (instantaneous digital true speed)

8.0 Hexadecimal readings of menu 7.0 to 7.3

9.0 Voltaggio batteria (battery volts)

10.0 Codici nazione (Nation codes)

11.0 Unit codes (?)

12.0 No function

13.0 Gong test (?)

14.0 - 14.4 On board diagnostic codes. Es. 000000 = no failures

15.0 - 18.0 No function

19.0 On/Off for Test menu.

20.0 Fattore di correzione per consumo di benzina (correction factor for fuel consumption)

Formula per il fattore di correzione: (formula for this correction factor)

Shown consumption x 1000 / user defined consumption

Push the trip reset button to begin the correction. Numbers count up from 0-9, when correct number shows
push trip reset button.

20.1 Sets 10ths. for consumption factor

20.2 Sets 100ths. and 1000ths. for consumption factor

20.3 Saves the new consumption factor and shows new value

21.0 Software reset.
bye bye now
I just attached my best translation for the precedent post.
What I can say is that is nothing spectacular, but to drive and to see some of these indications in front of you, could be fine in some situations. For example very interesting is that the water temperature was today morning (highway) always close to 80 degrees (celsius) . I was expecting much more. I know that series 3 e90 runs at around 105 degrees. They want to run at 105 degrees to lower the emissions (pollution). Someone thinks that this is the reason why there is not the water temp. indicator on the BMW cars...They don't want to worry the customers....
Later the instructions how to enter into the secret menu....
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I so remember that!
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