question on spacers with ZCP wheels

LarThaL · 07-25-2011, 01:54 PM

The minimum size for hubcentric spacers on the M3 is 12mm. Will these work with the ZCP wheels and stock tires? The ZCP wheels are already 4mm further out toward the fender than either of the other stock wheel options. Not worried about the front, but am a little worried about rubbing in the rear. Using a 12mm spacer on a ZCP wheel is like a 16mm spacer on a stock 18 or 19" non ZCP-wheel.

Thanks.

Mason3 · 07-25-2011, 02:08 PM

I ran 12 and 15 no problems on my ZCP when I had stock wheels

EAS · 07-25-2011, 02:18 PM

The 15/12 is the most common combination for spacers on a ZCP M3. With the 15/12 you won't have any problems with the rear rubbing, some people have even gotten the 18/15 combo. We've got the Macht Schnell spacers in stock and ready to ship!

EuroTrip · 07-25-2011, 02:28 PM

I run 15/12 from EAS MS Spacers and there is absolutely no rub with stock ZCP setup.

geneatals · 07-25-2011, 02:28 PM

12.5mm TMS spacers all around, no problems whatsoever....

paradocs98 · 07-25-2011, 02:47 PM

I bought 12.5mm Turner spacers all-around a few months ago for my E90 ZCP and while the front was fine, the rears rubbed on the fender liners on dips and bumps at around-town speeds. Sounded awful. Turns out your stock tires are a deciding factor, too. My car was delivered with Pirelli PZeros, which are apparently significantly wider for a given size than the Michelin PS2s.

Malek@MRF · 07-25-2011, 03:01 PM

We recommend the 18mm front and 15mm rear on the stock ZCP setup with PS2 tires. If you have Pirelli's, 15mm front, 12mm rear.

gthal · 07-25-2011, 04:29 PM

I run 10mm front and 5mm rear for a more conservative stance (but better the OEM ZCP) and it works well with MS spacers.

geneatals · 07-28-2011, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by paradocs98

I bought 12.5mm Turner spacers all-around a few months ago for my E90 ZCP and while the front was fine, the rears rubbed on the fender liners on dips and bumps at around-town speeds. Sounded awful. Turns out your stock tires are a deciding factor, too. My car was delivered with Pirelli PZeros, which are apparently significantly wider for a given size than the Michelin PS2s.

wow, that's the first time I've read of 12.5mm rubbing, no matter what tire brand...my m3 came with conti's...

Wes Howell · 07-28-2011, 12:28 AM

I run PS2's with 15's all around with a 1.5" drop.... had a tiny bit of rubbing when my car was dumped just in one spot..... raised it a hair..perfect.

The back pushed out all flush looks awesome. Front will rub with 18mm's IMO. 15 was VERY close.

Vise · 07-28-2011, 09:38 AM

Whats the recommended spacer for a non-ZCP car running OEM ZCP wheels + Eibach springs? I know it will depend on tire choice somewhat of course, I'm looking at 255/35 and 275/35 but not sure what tire brand just yet. Any thoughts?

Wes Howell · 07-28-2011, 10:41 AM

There are tips on how to measure for spacers on the turner site. (look at their spacers they sell)

Chuck333 · 03-13-2013, 04:21 AM

Hi, I have the zcp wheels and looking to use some spacers. Came accross this video which said the H&R spacers dont fit on the zcp wheels.

Anyone know if this is the case or have experienced a similar problem?

ortho281 · 03-13-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gthal

I run 10mm front and 5mm rear for a more conservative stance (but better the OEM ZCP) and it works well with MS spacers.

^This, MS makes a hub centric spacer in 10 mm. You could try those. I used to run 10/10, but now run 10/5 due to rubbing rear bumper and fender liner.

Kosta1968 · 05-01-2015, 07:10 PM

I ran +17.5 front and +15 rear with the stock comp setup looked good.

FashionablyFast · 05-11-2015, 09:09 PM

I ran 12mm in the rears with ZCP wheels and 275/35 PSS with no rub (stock suspension).
I have since stepped it up to 295/30 PS2 in the rear and had to switch to 10mm spacers. Sits perfectly but will be lowering soon and that may be a different story....

M3LISSA · 05-13-2015, 06:00 AM

I got 15mm on my rears, no problems

M3Bimmer77 · 06-10-2015, 01:59 PM

Please suggest!!! M3 E90 245/30/19" front and 265/30/19" back. Conti Sport 3 tires, rims are BMW 220's, 8.5 front, 9.5 rear. Basically it's stock 19's. No suspension mods. Car does not have the competition package only rim upgrade. I ordered 15mm spacers for the front and 12 for the back, are they ok or will they rub. Yr input will be much appreciated.

Denk · 06-10-2015, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by M3Bimmer77

Please suggest!!! M3 E90 245/30/19" front and 265/30/19" back. Conti Sport 3 tires, rims are BMW 220's, 8.5 front, 9.5 rear. Basically it's stock 19's. No suspension mods. Car does not have the competition package only rim upgrade. I ordered 15mm spacers for the front and 12 for the back, are they ok or will they rub. Yr input will be much appreciated.

I think you have 245/35, 265/35. You won't have any rub issues. Here is my first e92 with 15mm front, 12mm rear with 220's and stock Conti 3's. I also ran 12.5mm all around without any issues on stock 220's/tires.

M3Bimmer77 · 06-10-2015, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Denk

I think you have 245/35, 265/35. You won't have any rub issues. Here is my first e92 with 15mm front, 12mm rear with 220's and stock Conti 3's. I also ran 12.5mm all around without any issues on stock 220's/tires.

You are absolutely correct. They are 35's. Thank you

Denk · 06-10-2015, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by M3Bimmer77

You are absolutely correct. They are 35's. Thank you

You're welcome! Post some pics after you get them mounted.

spr · 09-03-2015, 11:26 AM

Anyone comment on the 255/285 super sports on zcp with eibach pro kit and bilsteins?

Seems like 10 or 12mm? I absolutely don't want rubbing and drive the car harder than anyone. Thanks!

07-25-2011, 01:54 PM	#1
LarThaL Colonel 336 Rep 2,940 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: West Springfield, MA iTrader: (0)	question on spacers with ZCP wheels The minimum size for hubcentric spacers on the M3 is 12mm. Will these work with the ZCP wheels and stock tires? The ZCP wheels are already 4mm further out toward the fender than either of the other stock wheel options. Not worried about the front, but am a little worried about rubbing in the rear. Using a 12mm spacer on a ZCP wheel is like a 16mm spacer on a stock 18 or 19" non ZCP-wheel. Thanks. __________________ **Audi S6 Audi S3 * Porsche Cayman GTS* --Former BMW M3 owner**
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07-25-2011, 02:18 PM	#3
EAS BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 547 Rep 5,695 Posts Drives: VF620 M3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Anaheim, CA iTrader: (10)	The 15/12 is the most common combination for spacers on a ZCP M3. With the 15/12 you won't have any problems with the rear rubbing, some people have even gotten the 18/15 combo. We've got the Macht Schnell spacers in stock and ready to ship!
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EuroTrip BMW FAN 43 Rep 723 Posts Drives: 2002 E46 M3 AW 6MT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Laguna Beach, CA iTrader: (5)	I run 15/12 from EAS MS Spacers and there is absolutely no rub with stock ZCP setup.
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geneatals Ninja 390 Rep 4,014 Posts Drives: 2019 530e Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: So Cal (SFV) iTrader: (3)	12.5mm TMS spacers all around, no problems whatsoever.... __________________ 2019 AW G30 530e l ZPP l ZMP l ZDH Retired: 2016 F80 M3, 2012 E90 M3, 2008 535i
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07-25-2011, 02:47 PM	#6
paradocs98 Lieutenant Colonel 394 Rep 1,519 Posts Drives: M2C Join Date: May 2009 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	I bought 12.5mm Turner spacers all-around a few months ago for my E90 ZCP and while the front was fine, the rears rubbed on the fender liners on dips and bumps at around-town speeds. Sounded awful. Turns out your stock tires are a deciding factor, too. My car was delivered with Pirelli PZeros, which are apparently significantly wider for a given size than the Michelin PS2s.
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07-28-2011, 12:28 AM	#10
Wes Howell www.facebook.com/weshowellcreative 59 Rep 623 Posts Drives: 2015 AW M4 Coupe Project Car Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Instagram #weshowell iTrader: (1)	I run PS2's with 15's all around with a 1.5" drop.... had a tiny bit of rubbing when my car was dumped just in one spot..... raised it a hair..perfect. The back pushed out all flush looks awesome. Front will rub with 18mm's IMO. 15 was VERY close. Attached Images
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Vise Captain 30 Rep 888 Posts Drives: Porsche GT3 RS Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (7) Garage List 2011.75 E90 M3 [10.00]	Whats the recommended spacer for a non-ZCP car running OEM ZCP wheels + Eibach springs? I know it will depend on tire choice somewhat of course, I'm looking at 255/35 and 275/35 but not sure what tire brand just yet. Any thoughts? __________________ Current: 2015 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS Sapphire Blue / Black Leather + Alcantara Interior Past: 2013 Mercedes C63 AMG Sedan Magnetite Black / designo Porcelain/Black Leather RIP: 2011 BMW M3 Sedan Alpine White / Fox Red Novillo Leather Past: 2008 BMW M3 Sedan Melbourne Red / Black Novillo Leather
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Wes Howell www.facebook.com/weshowellcreative 59 Rep 623 Posts Drives: 2015 AW M4 Coupe Project Car Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Instagram #weshowell iTrader: (1)	There are tips on how to measure for spacers on the turner site. (look at their spacers they sell)
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03-13-2013, 04:21 AM	#13
Chuck333 New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: e92 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	Hi, I have the zcp wheels and looking to use some spacers. Came accross this video which said the H&R spacers dont fit on the zcp wheels. Anyone know if this is the case or have experienced a similar problem?
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FashionablyFast First Lieutenant 84 Rep 378 Posts Drives: 2017 Audi R8 V10 Plus Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: OH iTrader: (2) Garage List 2017 Audi R8 V10 Plus [10.00] 2018 Audi RS5 [0.00]	I ran 12mm in the rears with ZCP wheels and 275/35 PSS with no rub (stock suspension). I have since stepped it up to 295/30 PS2 in the rear and had to switch to 10mm spacers. Sits perfectly but will be lowering soon and that may be a different story.... __________________ Current: 2017 Audi R8 V10 Plus, Vegas Yellow \| 2015 BMW M4, Manual, YMB \| Porsche 997.1 Turbo, 6-speed \| Porsche 997.2 Turbo, Aerokit. Past: E92 M3 M-DCT, Space Gray \| E46 M3, Jet Black, 6-speed \| Supra twin turbo, 6-speed, Renaissance Red
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06-10-2015, 01:59 PM	#18
M3Bimmer77 Captain 340 Rep 947 Posts Drives: 2011.5 M3 E90 Jet Black Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: West Palm Beach iTrader: (2)	Please suggest!!! M3 E90 245/30/19" front and 265/30/19" back. Conti Sport 3 tires, rims are BMW 220's, 8.5 front, 9.5 rear. Basically it's stock 19's. No suspension mods. Car does not have the competition package only rim upgrade. I ordered 15mm spacers for the front and 12 for the back, are they ok or will they rub. Yr input will be much appreciated.
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spr Major 93 Rep 1,089 Posts Drives: F80 M3; e92 ESS650+ M3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1)	Anyone comment on the 255/285 super sports on zcp with eibach pro kit and bilsteins? Seems like 10 or 12mm? I absolutely don't want rubbing and drive the car harder than anyone. Thanks! __________________ F80 M3 HRE FF04 275/305.
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