Akrapovic ? Or something else ? Newbie here

Kyu · 03-09-2013, 02:29 PM

Hi m3post !
I've been stalking this forum for awhile for great advices but newly registered.

The car is 2011 E90 M3 (4dr) stock.

Considering the sleepless nights I had a hard time finding out weights on full exhaust setups.
I was primarly sold on the "Gimmick" ? of the less weight of Akrapovic Evo GT4 setup

But had a hard time to convince my self it was worth the premium price tag.
I looked around forums and all over the net trying to figure out the weight difference, so far It looks like any aftermarket if not then most aftermarket setups are considerably lighter than the OEM Exhaust (apparently bmw made them heavier to balance the weight of the vehicle?)

Would I lose too much of it's weight balance by going Akrapovic + Light wheels? too much weight shifted forward ? I'm a newbie when it comes to balance performance, and I see the greater advices from here.

Also is Akrapovic worth the price tag ? or is it more of a Bling braging rights ?

from looking online It looks like I can gain a similiar amount of hp/tq gain by doing a mixtures of setup but sacrifice by adding a little more weight than what Akrapovic has to offer (SS vs Ti) is Akrapovic that much lighter? or is it really a gimmick ?

I guess to simplfy my question, is Akrapovic worth the price tag or can I do a different setup for similar performance gain ? and if so what would be a good recommendation ?

I know drone would be there, but i really dont like raspy, reminds me of my old JDM'd integra

4nroots · 03-09-2013, 02:34 PM

For the price (I paid $450), the perforated pipe oem exhaust mod is the best mod I have ever done. Killer sound when you're on it and zero drone. Sounds like a proper sports exhaust. I painted my can black which I think completes the mod

RingMeister01 · 03-09-2013, 02:34 PM

Nothing about Akra is a gimmick. Its performance and build quality is one of (if not the best) on the market. You could be unique and chose a hybrid system (mixing axle backs with different xpipes) but you wont be sorry buying the Akra.

Good luck with your choice.

ms372 · 03-09-2013, 02:40 PM

you want something quiet and looks good then Akra. you want something loud go with race exhausts most of companies offer them and YouTube is full of videos. you want something cheap do the exhaust mod

///M Power-Belgium · 03-09-2013, 02:40 PM

If you want a setup that ads HP....Akra-evo +++ 30 HP...but you now the price !
When it is for the sound..do the Oem. exhaust mod. i have done this for about 15 USD !
BTW...the Akra-evo sounds a little raspy...see sound clips off it !
So it's up to you

GOLFFRR · 03-09-2013, 02:56 PM

Akra Evo is the best exhaust for the M3 IMO and worth the cash. the build quality, power gains, looks, etc.. are awesome. This is just my view im sure other have their own views on which exhaust is the best.

look on the forums for used ones they come up from time to time. used evo go for 3800-4500 price range from what I have seen.

FormulaMMM · 03-09-2013, 03:21 PM

I've never experienced an exhaust that ticks all of the boxes like the Akra Evo. It's bar none the nicest exhaust that I've ever seen.

Be patient and find the sections used. Still not cheap though.

Kyu · 03-09-2013, 03:32 PM

Thanks for your tips guys

Yeah the only thing that bothers me on Akrapovic is the raspy sound,
I saw the build quality and it looks better than OEM factory finish before its been used.

I suppose I'll be on the look out for used ones, which seems to be a pretty good price.
any way to eliminate the raspy sound ?

Kyu · 03-09-2013, 03:37 PM

btw is there a major weight difference in lets say a MS race pipe + some aftermarket exhaust ? vs the Akrapovic ?

Powerbeast · 03-09-2013, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

Akra Evo is the best exhaust for the M3 IMO and worth the cash. the build quality, power gains, looks, etc.. are awesome. This is just my view im sure other have their own views on which exhaust is the best.

look on the forums for used ones they come up from time to time. used evo go for 3800-4500 price range from what I have seen.

+1

blankstar43 · 03-09-2013, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyu

btw is there a major weight difference in lets say a MS race pipe + some aftermarket exhaust ? vs the Akrapovic ?

the akra is made of titanium and is extremely light compared to other exhausts that are not utilizing this material. Of course that makes some of the other exhausts much cheaper in price

Kyu · 03-09-2013, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blankstar43

the akra is made of titanium and is extremely light compared to other exhausts that are not utilizing this material. Of course that makes some of the other exhausts much cheaper in price

what is the weight of your akra slip on ?

I ask because I'm eyeing a Vanguard used on this forum,
also titanium and sounds pretty nice as well, I believe it's going to be similar to akra slip on performance, I'm hoping they're about the same on weight.

I'm considering getting the X-pipe from Akra and try to mount it with the used vanguard, sounds like I can save a bit going this route,
Ofcourse I don't know if they would fit each other or not, not sure if any modding is necessary

FormulaMMM · 03-09-2013, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyu

I'm considering getting the X-pipe from Akra and try to mount it with the used vanguard, sounds like I can save a bit going this route,
Ofcourse I don't know if they would fit each other or not, not sure if any modding is necessary

No. You'd need adapters and those are costly.

Ashley Schaeffer BMW · 03-09-2013, 06:37 PM

A lot of guys seem to be underwhelmed when they finally install and hear their exhaust(Akra).

I think the full Innotech system is the best. Power and an awesome sound.

Kyu · 03-09-2013, 06:41 PM

will take a look at few clips of innotech,
just hard to tell since theres mostly only reving sound clips not an actual drive
and if it's an actual drive, sounds much different than in person -_-

Pegasus · 03-09-2013, 07:06 PM

I am in the same boat..not knowing what to get. From what I could find it seems Akra is one of the more popular exhausts for the M3 but that price tag is hefty.

I had a chance to hear a Fab-speed exhaust the other day..sounded amazing.

Ashley Schaeffer BMW · 03-09-2013, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyu

will take a look at few clips of innotech,
just hard to tell since theres mostly only reving sound clips not an actual drive
and if it's an actual drive, sounds much different than in person -_-

Rimier motorsports made a great video on youtube showing everything from reving to aggressive driving with valves opened and closed.

To be honest sounds even better in real life.

slicer · 03-09-2013, 08:22 PM

Many people say akrapovic has the most mild sound. I wouldn't want anything louder than my Akra evo system. I bought mine used and saved a few $$'s. The used market for Akra is strong and it won't corrode (titanium). I have sold an Akra rear section for the same price I paid for it. In other words, buy it right and you shouldn't lose too much value. One of the factors I use to choose my mods is resale. Buying quality parts that appeal to many has helped me minimize my modding costs.

Simply... I think it's worth it.

HeartMD · 03-09-2013, 08:33 PM

For me the Akra is the best fit. Ive never really found it to be raspy but rather bassy at lower rpms. It is fairly mild but still adds a nice character. Where I live and work I would really annoy my neighbors if I had something louder.

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Kyu Enlisted Member 1 Rep 40 Posts Drives: 2012 X6M Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Akrapovic ? Or something else ? Newbie here Hi m3post ! I've been stalking this forum for awhile for great advices but newly registered. The car is 2011 E90 M3 (4dr) stock. Considering the sleepless nights I had a hard time finding out weights on full exhaust setups. I was primarly sold on the "Gimmick" ? of the less weight of Akrapovic Evo GT4 setup But had a hard time to convince my self it was worth the premium price tag. I looked around forums and all over the net trying to figure out the weight difference, so far It looks like any aftermarket if not then most aftermarket setups are considerably lighter than the OEM Exhaust (apparently bmw made them heavier to balance the weight of the vehicle?) Would I lose too much of it's weight balance by going Akrapovic + Light wheels? too much weight shifted forward ? I'm a newbie when it comes to balance performance, and I see the greater advices from here. Also is Akrapovic worth the price tag ? or is it more of a Bling braging rights ? from looking online It looks like I can gain a similiar amount of hp/tq gain by doing a mixtures of setup but sacrifice by adding a little more weight than what Akrapovic has to offer (SS vs Ti) is Akrapovic that much lighter? or is it really a gimmick ? I guess to simplfy my question, is Akrapovic worth the price tag or can I do a different setup for similar performance gain ? and if so what would be a good recommendation ? I know drone would be there, but i really dont like raspy, reminds me of my old JDM'd integra
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4nroots Subluxator 58 Rep 452 Posts Drives: E90 335d, E93 M3 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	For the price (I paid $450), the perforated pipe oem exhaust mod is the best mod I have ever done. Killer sound when you're on it and zero drone. Sounds like a proper sports exhaust. I painted my can black which I think completes the mod __________________ E90 335xi Jerez Black, M-Sport, BMW power pack E63 AMG Wagon, Fully loaded If I lived in Germany, I'd be proud to drive domestic!
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ms372 White Shark 88 Rep 919 Posts Drives: AW E92 m3 6MT Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0)	you want something quiet and looks good then Akra. you want something loud go with race exhausts most of companies offer them and YouTube is full of videos. you want something cheap do the exhaust mod __________________ ESS \| Challenge x-pipe \| Akrapovic \| Stoptech BBK (380/355) \|Ohlins R&T \| Dinan \| Vorsteiner \| Downforce USA \| Varis Diffuser \| Gintani \| UUC \| BMW Performance \| Macht Schnell \| Forgestar F14's SDC 19x9.5F 19x11R \| 255.35 295.30
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///M Power-Belgium General 63297 Rep 24,651 Posts Drives: ///M3-E92-DCT Silverstone II Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Belgium iTrader: (0)	If you want a setup that ads HP....Akra-evo +++ 30 HP...but you now the price ! When it is for the sound..do the Oem. exhaust mod. i have done this for about 15 USD ! BTW...the Akra-evo sounds a little raspy...see sound clips off it ! So it's up to you
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FormulaMMM Brigadier General 3663 Rep 3,422 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Midwest iTrader: (2)	I've never experienced an exhaust that ticks all of the boxes like the Akra Evo. It's bar none the nicest exhaust that I've ever seen. Be patient and find the sections used. Still not cheap though. __________________ M4 GTS, GT3, C63 S \| E90 M3s, E39 M5
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Kyu Enlisted Member 1 Rep 40 Posts Drives: 2012 X6M Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Thanks for your tips guys Yeah the only thing that bothers me on Akrapovic is the raspy sound, I saw the build quality and it looks better than OEM factory finish before its been used. I suppose I'll be on the look out for used ones, which seems to be a pretty good price. any way to eliminate the raspy sound ?
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Kyu Enlisted Member 1 Rep 40 Posts Drives: 2012 X6M Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	btw is there a major weight difference in lets say a MS race pipe + some aftermarket exhaust ? vs the Akrapovic ?
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Ashley Schaeffer BMW Banned 91 Rep 833 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charlotte iTrader: (1)	A lot of guys seem to be underwhelmed when they finally install and hear their exhaust(Akra). I think the full Innotech system is the best. Power and an awesome sound.
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Kyu Enlisted Member 1 Rep 40 Posts Drives: 2012 X6M Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	will take a look at few clips of innotech, just hard to tell since theres mostly only reving sound clips not an actual drive and if it's an actual drive, sounds much different than in person -_-
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Pegasus Banned 0 Rep 18 Posts Drives: '12 BMW M3 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	I am in the same boat..not knowing what to get. From what I could find it seems Akra is one of the more popular exhausts for the M3 but that price tag is hefty. I had a chance to hear a Fab-speed exhaust the other day..sounded amazing.
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slicer Major General 2738 Rep 6,734 Posts Drives: 'E46 M3 Race Car, '23 X7 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wisconsin - Instagram - @slicer_m iTrader: (39)	Many people say akrapovic has the most mild sound. I wouldn't want anything louder than my Akra evo system. I bought mine used and saved a few $$'s. The used market for Akra is strong and it won't corrode (titanium). I have sold an Akra rear section for the same price I paid for it. In other words, buy it right and you shouldn't lose too much value. One of the factors I use to choose my mods is resale. Buying quality parts that appeal to many has helped me minimize my modding costs. Simply... I think it's worth it. __________________ '23 X7 '04 M3 - Fall Line Motorsports Built Race Car - S65 swap, Dry Sump, Bosch Stand-Alone ECU, Drenth Sequential Trans, MCS 3-Way, Flossmann Wide Body, Brembo Motorsports Brakes, Drexler LSD, BBS E88 Etc. INSTAGRAM - @Slicer_M Last edited by slicer; 03-10-2013 at 12:35 AM..
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HeartMD Captain 47 Rep 656 Posts Drives: 2011.75 MW,ZCP E92 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	For me the Akra is the best fit. Ive never really found it to be raspy but rather bassy at lower rpms. It is fairly mild but still adds a nice character. Where I live and work I would really annoy my neighbors if I had something louder. __________________ 2011.75 E92 MW/BB extended,ZCP,ZP2,ZCV, IPOD,BMW APPS, Heatedseats,6MT, Edition Black Chrome Grills & Side Gills, CF splitters, CF performance spoiler, CF mirror caps, Turner black anodized pedals, Akropovic Evolution exhaust w/CF tips, Still Undecided on tune, AFE Pro5r, AFE intake scoops, LUX H8 2009 E92 JB/Black 335 xdrive (retired)
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