Gintani e85 ftw!

Air_harman · 03-10-2018, 02:16 AM

Well guys the car woke the F up. We started at 333hp stock. We are currently on Gintani's full E85 tune. The car has the basics. Intake, x-pipe, exhaust, and underdrive pulley. We are now sitting at 393hp. 7 more to go to be apart of that elusive 400 club. We had done two pulls and the cable on our four post lift literally snapped and that was the end of our runs. Hopefully Monday with the fans hooked up and nice cool day we break that 400hp ceiling.

Big shout out to the guys at EAS for dropping the new motor in and another big shout to Alex at Gintani for getting my files to me as quickly as possible.

Also thanks for everyone's input on my last post about the car not taking to any modifications. Working on BMW's is fairly new to me so I'm thankful for all your advice.

8500RPM · 03-10-2018, 06:51 AM

Very nice results. I'm debating Ginatni or RK for an E85 tune. Seems like the RK is a little cheaper even with the optional tablet to change maps on the fly.

Bmw doubles · 03-10-2018, 08:26 AM

That's amazing! What was the car's whp before the full e85 tune?

E92_Toronto · 03-10-2018, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 8500RPM

Very nice results. I'm debating Ginatni or RK for an E85 tune. Seems like the RK is a little cheaper even with the optional tablet to change maps on the fly.

Also in the same boat. Debating either gintani or rk

Air_harman · 03-10-2018, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

That's amazing! What was the car's whp before the full e85 tune?

Before e85 we pulled 372 out of it before calling it a night.

Air_harman · 03-10-2018, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 8500RPM

Very nice results. I'm debating Ginatni or RK for an E85 tune. Seems like the RK is a little cheaper even with the optional tablet to change maps on the fly.

If you go with RK post it up I'd like to see the difference. My experience with the Gintani guy was fairly pleasant. We had a few hiccups but Alex took care of them quickly as possible. Cars a different animal on E85 though.

8500RPM · 03-10-2018, 12:23 PM

I have an E85 station on my way to the office every day. E85 is plentiful in south Florida which makes me want to switch. My current 91 pump gas tune from Turner is leaving some room on the table.

pbonsalb · 03-10-2018, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Air_harman

Well guys the car woke the F up. We started at 333hp stock. We are currently on Gintani's full E85 tune. The car has the basics. Intake, x-pipe, exhaust, and underdrive pulley. We are now sitting at 393hp. 7 more to go to be apart of that elusive 400 club. We had done two pulls and the cable on our four post lift literally snapped and that was the end of our runs. Hopefully Monday with the fans hooked up and nice cool day we break that 400hp ceiling.
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Good gains but you are running DIN, which is maybe 1.5% higher than the common SAE. This means you really are at about 387-88 rwhp SAE and have about 12-13 rwhp to go to hit 400 rwhp. EAS often gives out STD numbers, which are a little over 2% higher than SAE to show higher numbers to those who don’t know any better but this is the first chart of theirs that I have seen in DIN.

E85 is the way to go to maximize power if tuned, whether NA or FI.

kevin @ eas · 03-10-2018, 03:07 PM

Awesome numbers Harman! Only 7hp away, hopefully a few more runs you can crack the 400 mark.

ilikebmxbikes · 03-10-2018, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Air_harman

Well guys the car woke the F up. We started at 333hp stock. We are currently on Gintani's full E85 tune. The car has the basics. Intake, x-pipe, exhaust, and underdrive pulley. We are now sitting at 393hp. 7 more to go to be apart of that elusive 400 club. We had done two pulls and the cable on our four post lift literally snapped and that was the end of our runs. Hopefully Monday with the fans hooked up and nice cool day we break that 400hp ceiling.
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Good gains but you are running DIN, which is maybe 1.5% higher than the common SAE. This means you really are at about 387-88 rwhp SAE and have about 12-13 rwhp to go to hit 400 rwhp. EAS often gives out STD numbers, which are a little over 2% higher than SAE to show higher numbers to those who donÂ’t know any better but this is the first chart of theirs that I have seen in DIN.

E85 is the way to go to maximize power if tuned, whether NA or FI.

+1 let's see SAE Numbers.

maristgrad09 · 03-10-2018, 03:50 PM

What intake do you have?

Air_harman · 03-10-2018, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Air_harman

Well guys the car woke the F up. We started at 333hp stock. We are currently on Gintani's full E85 tune. The car has the basics. Intake, x-pipe, exhaust, and underdrive pulley. We are now sitting at 393hp. 7 more to go to be apart of that elusive 400 club. We had done two pulls and the cable on our four post lift literally snapped and that was the end of our runs. Hopefully Monday with the fans hooked up and nice cool day we break that 400hp ceiling.
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Good gains but you are running DIN, which is maybe 1.5% higher than the common SAE. This means you really are at about 387-88 rwhp SAE and have about 12-13 rwhp to go to hit 400 rwhp. EAS often gives out STD numbers, which are a little over 2% higher than SAE to show higher numbers to those who donÂ’t know any better but this is the first chart of theirs that I have seen in DIN.

E85 is the way to go to maximize power if tuned, whether NA or FI.

This isn't EAS's dyno this is ASP's dyno. Different shops.

Air_harman · 03-10-2018, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin @ eas

Awesome numbers Harman! Only 7hp away, hopefully a few more runs you can crack the 400 mark.

Thanks Kevin. Appreciate all the help.

Air_harman · 03-10-2018, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by maristgrad09

What intake do you have?

Macht Schnell stage 2.

maristgrad09 · 03-10-2018, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by maristgrad09

What intake do you have?

Macht Schnell stage 2.

I have a drop in filter. I'm going to put the same one you have in and see if that makes a difference.

Sales@Gintani.com · 03-15-2018, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Air_harman

Well guys the car woke the F up. We started at 333hp stock. We are currently on Gintani's full E85 tune. The car has the basics. Intake, x-pipe, exhaust, and underdrive pulley. We are now sitting at 393hp. 7 more to go to be apart of that elusive 400 club. We had done two pulls and the cable on our four post lift literally snapped and that was the end of our runs. Hopefully Monday with the fans hooked up and nice cool day we break that 400hp ceiling.

Big shout out to the guys at EAS for dropping the new motor in and another big shout to Alex at Gintani for getting my files to me as quickly as possible.

Also thanks for everyone's input on my last post about the car not taking to any modifications. Working on BMW's is fairly new to me so I'm thankful for all your advice.

Awesome!

Hope you're enjoying your tune!

TrAcK TRaP · 04-04-2018, 12:32 PM

Can we really run %100 E85 with tune only?

GeorgeA · 04-04-2018, 12:54 PM

Isn't 333whp too low for stock??

tlow98 · 04-05-2018, 12:52 AM

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Isn't 333whp too low for stock??

pretty standard number for early version OE engine management with full cats, etc.

GeorgeA · 04-05-2018, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tlow98

pretty standard number for early version OE engine management with full cats, etc.

Over 20% drivetrain loss for a rwd manual is huge though

LVI · 04-05-2018, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tlow98

pretty standard number for early version OE engine management with full cats, etc.

I doubt it. 333whp is not an average stock baseline. Not from a good running car.

tlow98 · 04-05-2018, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeA

Over 20% drivetrain loss for a rwd manual is huge though

That's if you believe 414hp is accurate from bmw. look at all the under-rated cars in BMW's line-up. Cough, the new M4/3. BMW just rounds up or down to wherever they feel works with their marketing and sales goals.

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I doubt it. 333whp is not an average stock baseline. Not from a good running car.

Have you guys looked at the Dyno Database?

This was a common number back in the early days when cars were very new. 240E update brings about 10rwhp to where most cars dyno stock today.

Even given this new info 333rwhp is doesn't fall outside 1 standard deviation from the mean = very common.

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