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      05-22-2013, 04:11 PM   #595
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Alright, i'll bite, here's my best session from my last trip to Calabogie. I love this track, even more than the Glen or Mosport. My theoretical best time was a 2:25.68 based on this session, so there's still room to improve.

You'll have to ignore the gear select in the video. I was playing with the OBDII protocol for the 991 on the SmartyCam, and I didn't do the gear select learning (normally I run CAN Bus, so it isn't an issue).

Oh, and if you think the V8 sounds weird, don't worry. It's acutally a flat-six. And yes, I know that's cheating

Will be back up at CMP on June 22, and July 6-7 at the very least.

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      05-22-2013, 05:28 PM   #596
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Track: Calabogie Motorsports Park, May 20/2013
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Alright, i'll bite, here's my best session from my last trip to Calabogie. I love this track, even more than the Glen or Mosport. My theoretical best time was a 2:25.68 based on this session, so there's still room to improve.

You'll have to ignore the gear select in the video. I was playing with the OBDII protocol for the 991 on the SmartyCam, and I didn't do the gear select learning (normally I run CAN Bus, so it isn't an issue).

Oh, and if you think the V8 sounds weird, don't worry. It's acutally a flat-six. And yes, I know that's cheating

Will be back up at CMP on June 22, and July 6-7 at the very least.


Nice! I still have tons of room to improve, but I really love his track! Going to The Glen and Mosport for he first time this year, so I'll have more to compare with by the end of the season.
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Nice! I still have tons of room to improve, but I really love his track! Going to The Glen and Mosport for he first time this year, so I'll have more to compare with by the end of the season.
Love Calabogie! I will be there with sawzall on the dates he mentioned. I think I have a couple of vids of Calabogie somewhere so will have to post them.

We are also doing a 4 days at the Glen this summer. We did a few days there already in April with Chumpcar
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Nice! I still have tons of room to improve, but I really love his track! Going to The Glen and Mosport for he first time this year, so I'll have more to compare with by the end of the season.
How were the rs19s for you? Can't remember If you had run them before or this was your first time with them.
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How were the rs19s for you? Can't remember If you had run them before or this was your first time with them.

The RS19's are working out great. Big difference from the Hawk HP+ that I had before. Less initial bite but very smooth and consistent. And they are pretty quiet on the street too!
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Track: Calabogie Motorsports Park,


Will be back up at CMP on June 22, and July 6-7 at the very least.
Sawzall, just noticed that your video was from April 28, I was there on the 27th. Back up there July 19-21.
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The RS19's are working out great. Big difference from the Hawk HP+ that I had before. Less initial bite but very smooth and consistent. And they are pretty quiet on the street too!
Wait for it! They won't be.
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Sawzall, just noticed that your video was from April 28, I was there on the 27th. Back up there July 19-21.
So will I .

I love this track .
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Sawzall, just noticed that your video was from April 28, I was there on the 27th. Back up there July 19-21.
I was there on the 27th too! Dodging all those open wheel cars that were there. I was the Red 991 (I know there were a few red 997 there as well). We must have seen each other at some point, I remember seeing a dark coloured E9x M3 parking alongside a few other cars.
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Yeah the tune feels good. I'm going faster thru the climbing esses and exiting Oak Tree. Still a couple more seconds left on the table to be plucked next time. When are you coming back to USA?

I experimented with an external mic on the license plate to get a little more aggressive audio. Still needs more cowbell though...
Yeah, definitely experiment with mic placement! I'm more of an engine noise guy myself so maybe I'm bias but that exhaust noise just wasn't doing it for me.. :P

Here's a video from back in 08' with a crappy Sony camera mounted on the windshield. That is how I want my videos to sound like, but kinda hard in the States when you have to drive with your windows down!! Maybe put the mic in an empty glove box?


I'll be back in the States in January 14' at the earliest but I might extend for another year depending on how things go. Definitely missing the M3, they have a few tracks here too but my hooptie would probably blow up if I try to run it there.
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^HOLYSHI#)%T! indeed!
There's a story of a guy at our local track that spun and then drove backwards up the front straight. If I was there I would have kicked his ass.
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So will I .

I love this track .
Are you up Tremblant on June 8-9? I am!
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I was there on the 27th too! Dodging all those open wheel cars that were there. I was the Red 991 (I know there were a few red 997 there as well). We must have seen each other at some point, I remember seeing a dark coloured E9x M3 parking alongside a few other cars.
Ya, that would have been me. I was the only black one there. I'll keep an eye out for you all later this summer.
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Are you up Tremblant on June 8-9? I am!
Yes I will. See you then
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There's a story of a guy at our local track that spun and then drove backwards up the front straight. If I was there I would have kicked his ass.
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Went to Sonoma Raceway (Infineon) for the first time. Phew! What a mind job! Walls, billboards, blind hills/curves, off-cambers, hairpins! And that doesn't even include the rattlesnakes and deer that were on the track!

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I know of at least 4 cars that were in wrecks: a Miata hit the wall in Turn 11, a CTS-V hit the wall in Turn 2, and a Ferrari and Porsche crashed into each other after the Ferrari spun in Turn 2 and the Porsche hit him.....I'm telling ya, that track eats cars.....

My GoPro caught a live rattlesnake on the track.......sadly, it didn't stay alive for long.....I didn't hit it when it was alive!

Here's video of the lap.



Anyway, this was my first time at a track in NorCal. Very nice facility, and they have a Wednesday Drags and Drift night every week. $25 and you can go drift and drag race until like 10PM. That was fun to watch. How awesome is that??
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Very fun little track. Tons of blind and off camber turns, very technical. Very enjoyable.
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Went to Sonoma Raceway (Infineon) for the first time. Phew! What a mind job! Walls, billboards, blind hills/curves, off-cambers, hairpins! And that doesn't even include the rattlesnakes and deer that were on the track!

My GoPro caught a live rattlesnake on the track.......sadly, it didn't stay alive for long.....I didn't hit it when it was alive!


^ That's nuts. I thought i'd seen everything at the track - turtles, turkey, deer, a frog that got fried in a wheel. But this takes the cake!
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^ That's nuts. I thought i'd seen everything at the track - turtles, turkey, deer, a frog that got fried in a wheel. But this takes the cake!
Yeah, it was pretty crazy to see a coiled up snake like that. I felt bad for it on the next lap when he was, uh, how shall I say it, worse for the wear....he was in the general race line, so there's not much you could do.....

The next day a deer came on track. They stopped the session obviously for that to deal with it.

Boy, Sonoma Raceway sure has it all!----tough, car eating course and wildlife.
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Went to Big Willow with SpeedDistrict. As usual, a nice time hosted by Josh.

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^ ^ ^ ^ good to see you again Gabe. Can't believe how fast you were going in the heat. I did ok in the morning but not so hot (pun intended) in the afternoon.

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The time above was done in session 2 with my temp guage at 85 deg F sliding somewhat as the track felt a bit slippery compared to previous times.

In the afternoon I was sliding all over the place. My 300 treadwear Michelins were melting in the 97 deg heat and turned into balls of grease. I was doing by best and turning mid-high 1:40's in those conditions. It was so bad that my rear tires were spinning the entire time so the car was freaking out and thought it was back on the dyno so the ABS system and DSC system turned themselves off!

I couldn't even keep up with what looked like a stock 4 door M3 and stock 335i 4 door M sport lol. Just shows that tires make a huge difference, particularly in extreme conditions. I learned a valuable lesson and won't ever go back without a dedicated set of wheels/tires.

Here's what happened in my warm down lap.

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Went to Big Willow with SpeedDistrict. As usual, a nice time hosted by Josh.

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Best Lap Time: 1:32.852 (transponder)
Brakes: AP Racing - Cobalt Friction XR2 front/XR3 rear
Tires: Hankook TD - 295/30/18 square on Apex Arc-8 10.5"
Suspension: JRZ RS Pro
Other mods: VF620, MS track pipes, (no aero parts)

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Nice driving!

You may have answered this a bunch of times, so excuse my ignorance. How did you fit 10.5 with 295 in the fronts? Camber? Fender roll/pull? Looks like it has awesome balance out there with that setup.

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^ ^ ^ ^ good to see you again Gabe. Can't believe how fast you were going in the heat. I did ok in the morning but not so hot (pun intended) in the afternoon.

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Track/course: Willow Springs - Big Willow
Best Lap Time: 1:38.1 (VBox)
Brakes: ST BBK with street pads
Tires: stock 19" wheels with 300 treadwear street tires lol
Suspension: stock ZCP
Other mods: ESS VT2 625

The time above was done in session 2 with my temp guage at 85 deg F sliding somewhat as the track felt a bit slippery compared to previous times.

In the afternoon I was sliding all over the place. My 300 treadwear Michelins were melting in the 97 deg heat and turned into balls of grease. I was doing by best and turning mid-high 1:40's in those conditions. It was so bad that my rear tires were spinning the entire time so the car was freaking out and thought it was back on the dyno so the ABS system and DSC system turned themselves off!

I couldn't even keep up with what looked like a stock 4 door M3 and stock 335i 4 door M sport lol. Just shows that tires make a huge difference, particularly in extreme conditions. I learned a valuable lesson and won't ever go back without a dedicated set of wheels/tires.

Here's what happened in my warm down lap.

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Dude! didn't look like you were going fast at all or any sudden weight transfers, track temps must've been hot as hell!
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