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      10-26-2017, 08:50 AM   #67
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Yea I don't know OP. I think it's fair to exhaust every avenue of knowing why it happened before anyone pays for anything. I know we know what happened, but we don't know why. Are you paying $5k as half of what this repair would cost or are they estimating what their pure cost is and then paying half. If their actual cost for parts and labor is $5k then you should be paying half of that number. Not paying half of what they would typically charge a customer. It appears that they are actually breaking even and you are paying for the job. Just my .02 cents but I don't like the idea of me paying and them, the possible culprit breaking even.
OP don't beat yourself up over it, you may have been in for a drawn out fight while your car remained broken.

Boof brings up a great point though. I feel you should be paying half of their cost or very close to have of their cost and not half of retail or whatever they quoted you.

Still sucks that this even happened.
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      10-27-2017, 07:43 AM   #68
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After seeing the failure, the service manager said "this proves it was a part failure and not abuse."
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      10-27-2017, 09:08 AM   #69
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I would still like to see a read out of the cars lasts breaths. If the car was going ZERO miles per hour and the engine RPM's were at anything over 3,000 then I'm thinking it was exacerbated by whomever was behind the wheel. Hey I'm not a mechanic but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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      10-27-2017, 10:01 AM   #70
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I would still like to see a read out of the cars lasts breaths. If the car was going ZERO miles per hour and the engine RPM's were at anything over 3,000 then I'm thinking it was exacerbated by whomever was behind the wheel. Hey I'm not a mechanic but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Likewise and lol @holiday inn
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      10-27-2017, 12:01 PM   #71
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What would everyone be saying if their car spun a couple rod bearings whilst at the dealer? We all know that these cars are "ticking time bombs" and can dump their guts with no real prior indication. Would that just be a coincidence, or would you be chasing the dealer to pay for a new motor because all was well when you dropped it off?

I realize these are two different situations, but I'm curious what everyone's approach would be comparing a "common" issue vs something that looks to be a first.
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      10-27-2017, 12:27 PM   #72
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What would everyone be saying if their car spun a couple rod bearings whilst at the dealer? We all know that these cars are "ticking time bombs" and can dump their guts with no real prior indication. Would that just be a coincidence, or would you be chasing the dealer to pay for a new motor because all was well when you dropped it off?

I realize these are two different situations, but I'm curious what everyone's approach would be comparing a "common" issue vs something that looks to be a first.
I can't disagree with your concept, but I do think the dealer as has been mentioned is liable to determine the cause, not just the symptom considering the car was in their care. And in reality I would hope that the tech didn't do anything wrong. I would hate to see a 20 something year old kid lose his job for acting like Mario Andretti and having a hard time finding good dealership work.
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      10-27-2017, 12:33 PM   #73
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What would everyone be saying if their car spun a couple rod bearings whilst at the dealer? We all know that these cars are "ticking time bombs" and can dump their guts with no real prior indication. Would that just be a coincidence, or would you be chasing the dealer to pay for a new motor because all was well when you dropped it off?

I realize these are two different situations, but I'm curious what everyone's approach would be comparing a "common" issue vs something that looks to be a first.
I think we would do what most people are advocating here; determine what the issue actually is first (spun bearing is pretty easy to pinpoint), ask for data from the test drive to show it wasn't abused, and if everything checks out, be reasonable with the dealer.
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Glad you resolved it.
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      10-28-2017, 09:25 AM   #75
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      10-30-2017, 12:12 PM   #76
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We settled on splitting the bill 50/50. I don't know if I did the right thing or not but I looked at it as risk mitigation. I pick the car up Thursday or Friday and I don't know if I caved too easily or if I did the right thing. When I play it back in my head I feel that I should have pressed harder to have it 100% covered. I've never seen a transmission failure like this on this forum (although I don't follow that closely) and I don't think it should fail at 56k miles regardless. These cars are designed to be driven hard, people launch M3's at the drag strip or track every weekend...In fact, I think it would be difficult to blow up the transmission unless you drop the clutch at >6k RPM.

I still don't know what blew the hole through the bell housing, I'll ask for an update on that today.
If you don't mind can you share what your final cost for the repair will be?
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      10-30-2017, 12:46 PM   #77
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The tech prolly shifted gears without depressing the clutch! That's the only reason I could think of!
I do that all the time Just need to rev match.
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No way my friend. The dealership accepting 50% means it is possible that they have some degree of fault and know it.

Look, the fact that the flywheel/pressure plate blew through the bell housing means it was an extremely high RPM failure. Otherwise it would not have had the force to do what it did.

A simple test drive should be performed at a normal drive speed. Not racing on the track. I worked at a dealership for 20 years. A test drive for bleeding brakes means you go around the block
Hell, driving it out of the shop is good enough to check a brake fluid change.
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      10-31-2017, 12:41 PM   #79
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If you don't mind can you share what your final cost for the repair will be?
My piece was right around $4,500 before sales tax, the dealer covered the other half.
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