New Bimmerworld S65 Headers?

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by aus

I wish they'd spend the development time on some proper bearings for the S65 instead of the headers...

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maybe its the nature of the engine

[Hujan]

Originally Posted by Sal@AUTOcouture

What does heat soak have to do with your warranty?

I think they were two separate criticisms of blowers, specifically non-intercooled ones: voiding warranty and heat soak.

If a motor equipped with headers grenades, I think the warranty is probably in jeopardy anyway. And I think heat soak on the non intercooled blowers is not as big a deal as it's made out to be.

[JRV]

Saw this

[Verify]

Originally Posted by JRV

Saw this

well then, we know its a waste then. Catless+tune is good for that already.

[s85e90]

Originally Posted by Serpico

well then, we know its a waste then. Catless+tune is good for that already.

Not really. A long tube vs. short are big diff.

[Sered]

Originally Posted by Hujan

And I think heat soak on the non intercooled blowers is not as big a deal as it's made out to be.

It really depends on where you live. It most definitely is a big deal in southern Florida during summer months. The humidity plus the temperature makes the air hold onto a lot of heat.

[Verify]

Originally Posted by s85e90

Not really. A long tube vs. short are big diff.

not for this car. they already said +40 hp gains with headers, x pipe and tune.

what does Xpipe and tune currently net us?

[schnell325]

They have a video up on Facebook now. Just a quick 10sec clip

Sorry can't get my phone to link it

[pbonsalb]

Originally Posted by Serpico

not for this car. they already said +40 hp gains with headers, x pipe and tune.

what does Xpipe and tune currently net us?

Probably around 30. Full x-pipe is around 20 and tune around 10, but results vary a little.

Cams would be another expensive, labor intensive mod.

If I had $5k, I'd be looking at a used supercharger kit. That would not buy intercooled, but I don't track and live in New England. I already have x-pipe, intake, pulley, and Vishnu procede with meth, but have not dynoed so I don't know what I make now -- probably somewhere in the 375-400 range. My software may be original 2008, so I should update that sometime if I can find an autologic dealer or someone in my area who will do if for a reasonable price.

[Hujan]

Originally Posted by Serpico

not for this car. they already said +40 hp gains with headers, x pipe and tune.

what does Xpipe and tune currently net us?

About the same.

[BrewRifle]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater

[mermar]

Headers ... I think the train left that station in the early 70's. Can't imagine a bigger waste of time and money. And the next buyer will run when they see that mod.

[Sered]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

Probably around 30. Full x-pipe is around 20 and tune around 10, but results vary a little.

Cams would be another expensive, labor intensive mod.

If I had $5k, I'd be looking at a used supercharger kit. That would not buy intercooled, but I don't track and live in New England. I already have x-pipe, intake, pulley, and Vishnu procede with meth, but have not dynoed so I don't know what I make now -- probably somewhere in the 375-400 range. My software may be original 2008, so I should update that sometime if I can find an autologic dealer or someone in my area who will do if for a reasonable price.

Cams shouldn't be labor intensive. Stock ones flow very well though. Even the 600whp+ setups are fine with stock cams.

I bought my VF540 kit used, you just gotta keep your eye out

[Sered]

Originally Posted by mermar

Headers ... I think the train left that station in the early 70's. Can't imagine a bigger waste of time and money. And the next buyer will run when they see that mod.

Huh? LTs usually flow very well compared to shortys. Our headers flow very well stock, but I'd bet a set of LTs will outflow them considerably. It may not be as much of a deal while N/A (still 20-30hp is nothing to sneeze at), but I think the S/C cars might pick up even more. The S/C cars will also lose 1psi or so from them, allowing them to pulley down a bit and gain even more power.

[pbonsalb]

Originally Posted by Sered

Cams shouldn't be labor intensive.

Seriously? How long does it take you to change 4 cams and retime two sets of dual vanos? I have done a few 2 cam single vanos jobs, which is much easier, and that takes me a couple of hours. I have also done a few inline 6 header swaps and those take me several hours for the swap assuming no broken bolts or studs.

[s85e90]

Originally Posted by Serpico

not for this car. they already said +40 hp gains with headers, x pipe and tune.

what does Xpipe and tune currently net us?

It's where the power is made. Long tubes make more torque

[s85e90]

Originally Posted by mermar

Headers ... I think the train left that station in the early 70's. Can't imagine a bigger waste of time and money. And the next buyer will run when they see that mod.

[Dave07997S]

Our headers aren't shorties, they are a mid-length design. This is a shorty..

[Richbot]

Miatas also came with tubular manifold from the factory and conventional wisdom was there wS not much to be gained there either. Until people found 10+hp and even more torque with a good custom header. Always room for improvement ignoring diminishing returns of course

[MFL]

And they've already slipped their release date..

[sterile stork]

Originally Posted by MFL

And they've already slipped their release date..

GD. Boo.

[M3guy3]

another facebook vid.

looks to be American made.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater