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All else being equal, when the light turns green, the car with the better reflexes wins. At least for the first foot or so. Capiche? Typically, a stick will have better reflexes at the go sign, because it takes quite a large number of microseconds for the brakes to actually release their death grip. I'm only mentioning this by way of pointing out that reflexes differ from vehicle to vehicle, and that's just one example. |
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Admittedly, the 2012 GTR will be a beast, but I too have heard and seen many posts/vids which show the .1 turbo easily beating out a GTR in a drag race whether from the dig or roll. The 2012 GTR vs. .2 PDK turbo should have similar results. A turbo S more-so. Nonetheless the 2012 GTR will be very very special, imo.
Bruce brought up some very good points about 0 whatever-60 runs. I consider them rather meaningless. As far as sheer acceleration it should be 0-100 MPH, 1/4 mile and/or 0-125 MPH. As much as I thought I liked the idea of a GTR I realize I'd rather buy a pre-owned .1 turbo w/a stick for less money. My previous .1 turbo was my all time second favorite car; the .2 GT3 is the favorite. Last edited by devo; 12-16-2010 at 05:09 PM.. |
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on the waayyy TOP end, the porsche has the GTRs number. the gearing on the GTR doesnt support much past 190 where a porsche still has gear left. |
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I want a GTR for my next car. Im thinking about getting rid of the M for it
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12-16-2010, 05:56 PM | #51 | |
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Whatever. A foot of rollout is just as good as any other measurement, as long as one compares apples to apples. |
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I got spanked by a GT-R almost a year ago and I still don't forget it.
I'm sitting there shifting gears all day and he just kept passing me.. motherf'r
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erased stupid comment
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..with better weather condition (warmer) could be within 2s...that is just insane..makes our Ms felt like a tugboat now. but the price starting at 100k. still a bargain compare to turbo S. but 20k more than 08 GTR...idk
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I assume (and hope) that you're stating that as an opinion. True?
If you're purporting that your 0-60 method of measure is the One True Method, then there are a number of U.S. magazines who disagree with you, and, even though I am personally not sure just exactly what a true 0-60 time is, I have made what I think is an equally strong and defensible case for an alternate method. Of course, as I've also stated, 0-60 is essentially meaningless in terms of "which car is faster". In any event, anybody else with an opinion on the One True 0-60 measurement? |
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I am truly baffled by this hair splitting. Zero to Sixty is zero to sixty. There is no method and it isn't an opinion. It is a rigid set of parameters. Whether you think its a meaningful measurement is up to you (i don't). If you want a 1' rollout then it's a "1 foot rollout to 60" measurement. It seems we're both interested in an (as you said) apples to apples test. That's why I don't care for magazines that count a 1' rollout. The car is moving at 1'. Edmunds http://www.insideline.com/features/h...nd-trucks.html Quote:
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However, my point is analogous to braking distances. As you are probably aware, different testing methods abound. My personal preference would be to begin at the exact moment my foot hit the pedal, and not at the point where braking begins. The time between those events varies from car to car, just as in the acceleration example. Oh well. Since we agree that 0-60 is pretty much immaterial in the scheme of things, I guess that's enough on the topic. |
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I love BMW, I loved my 335i with the mods, I liked my Z4, and I'm really liking my M3
but, if I had to chose... I'd take a GTR in a heartbeat though I love drop tops after driving Godzilla in Japan 3 years ago... I will own one. Just... need time.
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yep its still a pretty good value
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Wow this thread certainly bring out the true strip of some people here. Justification of "It's not a BMW" is as bad as saying "I don't care he's from Harvard; he's a <insert a skin color>"
Please try to quantify that. What exactly is a BMW? Otherwise making the comment makes it seem like a brand whore mentality. What is BMW? Taxis in germany? Is that why? GT-R is not a Taxi therefore it's bad?
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That is patently not true - only someone who hasn't driven one can say this. I thought the GT-R was very very well put together, both on the inside and on the outside.
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I've driven the GT-R and while I can admire the speed, technology etc. it just didn't speak to me - at all. I have no desire to own one. Is that a sin? Does it make me a BMW cock?
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I can't believe I just read through 4 pages of this thread. Very interesting.
The facts are the GTR has Super Car performance for a very reasonable price. 0-60 in under or around 3 sec and all for under $100K. I'm sure the performance will only continue to get better with prices creeping up a little at a time but nothing near exotic prices. I think it's not the most beautiful looking car but I also look at like a "Sore Dick", you just can't beat it. Would I want one? Sure! After I have a GT3 RS and Lambo SL in the garage. As for which would I prefer between my M and GTR that is easy. That's why I have an M in my garage now. The GTR is a great sports car but it just doesn't float my boat. If I had an extra $100k I wouldn't think twice. I'm not sure how often it would move but I would love to have one in my garage any day! Last edited by ADubM3; 12-27-2010 at 10:27 PM.. |
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