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      10-04-2012, 01:37 PM   #1
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Was removing cold start worth it?

Just placed an order for a hfc x pipe and was wondering if I should include in my tune the option to remove cold start. I heard that when I get my car serviced, the people will know I tuned my car due to this. Is that true?
How bad is the cold start with a somewhat loud exhaust and x pipe?
Does the cold start affect the HFC?

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honestly i think removing the cold start is all personal preference... for me, after i add my race x pipe, i will not be removing the cold start since i love the huge roar when i start my car! i mean its loud, so i may wake some neighbors up, but when i leave for work, thats when people should be waking up anyways!
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Why anyone would remove cold start?!

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honestly i think removing the cold start is all personal preference... for me, after i add my race x pipe, i will not be removing the cold start since i love the huge roar when i start my car! i mean its loud, so i may wake some neighbors up, but when i leave for work, thats when people should be waking up anyways!
what he said. i left it in place because i like the sound on start up. makes the car sound extra mean. no real purpose other than that though to have it.
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      10-04-2012, 03:21 PM   #5
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I dont think it would be worth removing. Car sounds WAY too good upon that first fire up. More so when you have a full exhaust. Sounds like a boat! Its great.
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      10-04-2012, 03:35 PM   #6
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i did mine...neighbors were close to keying my ride!
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I had to remove it, too many complaints at the office from neighbors
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I look forward to cold starts. It's a great way to start out a drive.
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      10-04-2012, 07:53 PM   #9
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I love the cold start roar..i wish it wouldnt go away

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I had to remove it, too many complaints at the office from neighbors
Complaints at the "office" from neighbors? How does a business district field noise complaints? Unless you work in a residential area..
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removed mine out of respect for my neighborhood

I hated to see it go though it was awesome!
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Ok ok. Fill me in, cold start?

My E92 is like a bucking bronco pulling out of the condo.

Are you saying this is some feature that can be removed?

Thanks...sorry if noobish question...
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I love the cold start roar..i wish it wouldnt go away

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I had to remove it, too many complaints at the office from neighbors
Complaints at the "office" from neighbors? How does a business district field noise complaints? Unless you work in a residential area..
Sorry I wasn't clear, I meant to say at the leasing office where I live. Lots of complaints from neighbors
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90% of our customers request this option. So yes if you live in a quiet area it is definitely worth it.
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90% of our customers request this option. So yes if you live in a quiet area it is definitely worth it.
does this make 90% of M3poster weiners? i though the number would be lower.
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I removed it and have no regrets. I loved it with OEM exhaust but when I switched to Akra Evo the cold start was obnoxious. It had a low resonance that was not pleasing. Some other exhaust systems may have different results.
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Much quieter for neighbors/my own family when I leave early. Smoother at start up, but definitely more smell at start up. If it weren't for neighbor courtesy, would keep cold start enabled.
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I don't know why everyone removes the cold start...lol its badass! hahaha

Tell the neighbors to get a job.
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Funny thing, I removed mine, and two days later I received an anonymous letter from a neighbor about my "noisy blue car." Ironic that it was the most quiet my car has been on start-up. ever.
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does this make 90% of M3poster weiners? i though the number would be lower.
I removed mine because I have one of the loudest m3 exhausts on the market without resonators or cats. I don't think I'm a weiner, my neighbors probably agree (in this context)
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Absolutely worth it. Many clients opt for it.
absolutley worth it why? i live in a large lot community where everyone is on at least 1 acre. mine is 1.1 acres. the car parks in the bay at the red x. just how far is the noise going to travel that it is an issue? i understand condos, apartments, zero lot line homes and everyone that lives on top of each other where houses are all shoehorned onto little lots, but we are spread out, and my garages all surround a small courtyard. the sound in the video above sounds badass. bmw installed cold start for a reason. if you are not going to bother your neighbors, why is it "absolutely worth it"?
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