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Most M3's are sold as primary cars, not track toys, so everyday livability has to be a factor and that's all I'm saying. The CSL-type character is not for everyone. The automotive press expects nothing but top tier performance when reviewing, but remember, they don't have to live with the car. After a day of beating the crap out of an M3, they hop into a Camry and drive home. Real buyers do have to live with the car - and so performance must be balanced with comfort. If I'm honest, there are days that even ZSP seems harsh over the bumps! Reviews are one thing, but how many films have you enjoyed watching that were hated by critics? You have to get behind the wheel and see if it suits you. I'll be surprised if anyone on these boards test drives the thing and is disappointed by the all-round performance on offer. I mean, how can 420hp be disappointing?? Oh and finally, if BMW did somehow kill the M3's character and sales are correspondingly low then just wait a year. They will put it right for 2009 and that will be something special indeed.
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Who's going to get the chance to find out what the full 420bhp and cornering ability is like on a test drive? I can't see many being given unaccompanied drives on a product that hot. That means some will be sold on its brilliant everyday ability and be disappointed with it should they buy it and expect ultimate feedback and fun.
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Here's hoping lots of people cancel their orders based on heresay.
Hopefully if that happens Ill get mine sooner! So, I agree, its gonna be crap, anyone in the UK should cancel their orders immediately. Ill even send you a big box of chocolates when you cancel to cheer yourself up. |
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The Top Gear blog put it this way "for the moment, let's just say that the new M3 feels like the people who made it, created it for themselves. And they like to drive. Not helm, or pilot, or control. Not words that seem to indicate a lack of involvement; drive. And that makes it bloody good fun." http://www.topgear.com/blogs/drives/079-bmw-m3/ It might not get the fastest numbers at the track, but I bet you'll have fun anyway! If you want the ultimate hardcore driving experience you need this instead:
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b) I put my car into a drift coming out of freeway exit ramp traffic circle today. Huge fun. How many M3 coupe owners do that? If that's not "pure" then I don't give a shit what is. |
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Your car must be a blast to drive - do YOU care that it is a little slower than the E46 coupe? I doubt it. If E92 is quick but not quite as sharp as E46 does it matter? No - as long as it's fun!! b) That's not "pure". On public roads, that's just stupid. Keep it to the race track please.
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Spoken like someone who can't afford an M3. |
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I've also seen reviews putting the Infiniti G37 over the 335i. Who gives a shit? |
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My point was, using the existence of a convertible counterpart to a coupe is really not a good way to demostrate the validity (or not) of a car's performance intentions. It sounded like you were saying that the presence of the convertible in the E46 generation represented the car getting softer. Was that not your point? If not, my bad. I am just pointing out that the convertible has been there from the beginning. A convertible is a lifestyle thing? Sure, ok, true. But so is a coupe. And no less-so than a convertible. There is a performance penalty to be paid with convertible, yes. But there is also a performance penalty to be paid in driving a four seat car meant to be able to haul people vs. a purpose-built lightweight sports car like a corvette. But I do apologize if I jumped a little hard on you there. Quote:
But if I am on an exit ramp with absolutely no one - and I do mean _no one_ - around, and no passenger in my car, I am going to get on it as hard as I can. Situations like that are rare, so I take advantage. Two seconds later I came to the stop sign, and pulled out onto the road slowly and casually just like every other driver does. I haven't put the tail out since - no opportunities have arisen. But if they do, I will take them. |
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LOL....I'm with ya. The funny part though, is that most of those hating on the M3 weren't planning on getting it in the first place. |
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Wow
Wow... statements like that... whew... where does one begin (or bother?)
Anytime you'd like to see a list of our assets, let me know bud. People who make statements like that are the one's scraping by. I have never once, in my entire life, met anyone succesful that made a statement like that. I'm not going to waste anymore than the 45 seconds I just have on a piss-ant Janitor who makes ignorent remarks. |
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