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BTW, I did have a WRX almost 10years ago. Still keep it as a screen name as a reminder it was my 1st performance car. Since then I have owned several other cars of different makes. Thank you. Last edited by WRXXX; 12-05-2011 at 09:27 PM.. |
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Why would he? He's already convinced by numerous magazines praising how awesome the M3 is, therefore everything else is crap. By his definition AMG should have "kill" the M3 by now.
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12-06-2011, 09:01 AM | #47 | ||
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I have many times, actually in my circle of friends there are about 4-5 of them. MB in my circle is the most common brand, since I was young there was at least one relative in an AMG beating me in any one of my cars. My attitude was towards my buddy WRXXX, what is curious is that when I bring up technical data, the response I get back with is not fact driven. Again, my qualm is with this generation of the coupe, not the sedan. Great looking car, as stated earler, performance upgrades are lacking. Quote:
Do you not think it is a bit curious that the 2011 sedan is lighter than the 2012 coupe? Do you not think that a small investment into the supsension setup on MB's part would not yield huge rewards on the track or backroads(as tested)? No. Just no. The 2011 c63amg sedan with p31 package is a beast, my qualm is again as stated earlier, is that this coupe should have had more/better performance development to go with all visual/appearance changes. The c63coupe when compared to a 2011 sedan is not getting you much and in 4-5 years, this 'new' model is not breaking into any NEW performance ground, especially given the price increase/point. |
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12-06-2011, 09:40 AM | #48 | |
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12-06-2011, 10:44 AM | #50 | |
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12-06-2011, 10:53 AM | #51 | |
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However, I do wish we were a bit closer to VIR, the drive home is HELL. btw, any mods yet? |
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12-06-2011, 11:12 AM | #52 | |
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First Nine Bashes the C63 on how stupid the C63 is and how sucky the handling is and how the tires suck, and now he totally contradicts himself and says they are fast around a track? Did I miss something? Have the heavens opened and finally opened his mind that the M3 isn't the be all end all of cars? Could it be that he's not listening to the retarded comparison tests that take points off for design when they're testing performance? Have we finally turned a corner? Please say it's so! This deserves a celebration.
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That's the Coupe. http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...s-c-class-news Sedan. |
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12-08-2011, 12:59 PM | #61 | |
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Hopefully this knocks some reality into Hot|Ice. Here is from the CD article on the front page from a week ago or so, testing the m3 coupe v. c63 coupe.
"While it’s not a big car, the C63 is actually a secret fatty. Curb weight came in at 3996 pounds, 444 pounds heavier than the M3. You’d never know it judging by its quarter-mile acceleration—12.1 seconds at 120 mph—where the C63 picked up three points on the M3 in our scoring. Our best time—0 to 60 in 3.7 seconds—came without making use of the “race start” launch-control setting. Use launch control, and you get a very repeatable 0-to-60 time of 3.9 seconds, but we were able to beat that with a gentle foot and less wheelspin. In the launch-free 5-to-60-mph test, the C63 matched the M3’s all-out 0-to-60 time of 4.3 seconds. While driving the M3, we sometimes found ourselves daydreaming about the Benz’s V-8. Torque is a hell of a drug." Not sure what this guy needs to see to believe that although he listed a lighter car as a must, he chose a 444 pound heavier car because bmw did not make the m3 light enough |
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