Aftermarket Springs!? YES or NO

Asiarush · 07-31-2011, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rye m3

Wear out your shocks with any aftermarket spring and BMW will not warranty a shock replacement. Except Dinan, of course. And springs will put higher wear on your shocks.

yea, it seem to me that Dinan is the way to go anyway, I just was wondering how much of a drop it gives you !

persian54 · 07-31-2011, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Krozi

KW Sleeve-Over Kit.

I've read that it's not that great on the track, that the springs are too soft?

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Originally Posted by rye m3

Wear out your shocks with any aftermarket spring and BMW will not warranty a shock replacement. Except Dinan, of course. And springs will put higher wear on your shocks.

Yes and no... it can get complicated with the warranty thing with Dinan

Chowster · 07-31-2011, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Denk

I'd recommend the Dinan suspension kits over eibach or h&r. You'll retain OEM travel and have a subtle but definitely noticeable drop, excellent handling and a ride that I prefer over stock. Only downside is cost.

+1 on all of the above. I did a Dinan stage 1 spring kit primarily for an esthetic drop. From my readings, Dinan is the only spring kit that allows for OEM travel - in fact, greater than OEM travel. There's an informative (at least for me) sticky thread by rldzhao in the technical section, and Steve Dinan's suspension video is pretty informative too.

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Originally Posted by Asiarush

yea, it seem to me that Dinan is the way to go anyway, I just was wondering how much of a drop it gives you !

Published to be 1/2" front and back for Stage 1. Probably correct, even though I didn't bother measuring the exact drop. Here's what my before and after looks like:

Stock suspension, 19" wheels (winter setup), 235/255 tires.
vs.
Dinan Stage 1, OEM 19" 220s, 245/265 tires.

PoloOle · 08-01-2011, 12:39 AM

I got the B&G springs installed by EAS. Like the more firm ride. This is my DD. The car looks so much better, sorry I don't have before and after with stock rims.......

CarbonAlpine · 08-01-2011, 05:18 PM

I've just heard that non edc m3's will be a lot harsher than edc m3...when lowered on springs only.

Does anyone have non edc with springs? Any feedback

Much appreciated

Jameson@Alpine · 08-01-2011, 07:44 PM

Would I go back again? Definitely.

I had eibach, h&r and then RD Sport.

Eibach was way too high, felt kind of pointless.

Rd sport sat beautifully on the car and felt great, of course a bit more stiff. Handling was amazing.

H&R sits real nice as well, a tad lower in the rear then rd sport. Feels great and handles great.

No regrets. The car is way too high stock.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions!

Denk · 08-01-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CarbonAlpine

I've just heard that non edc m3's will be a lot harsher than edc m3...when lowered on springs only.

Does anyone have non edc with springs? Any feedback

Much appreciated

I do and mine isn't harsh at all. Non EDC suspension feels pretty much like the normal setting on EDC. I've got the Dinan Stage 1 and I like the ride better than before. Less bounce, slightly firmer but comfy and the handling feels better. 1/2" drop all around, looks perfect to me...I'm not into the slammed look. I've got new wheels coming and plan to post some pics as soon as they're on.

wisesoul · 08-01-2011, 10:09 PM

Springs and E36 bumpstops are the way to go

Asiarush · 08-02-2011, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chowster

+1 on all of the above. I did a Dinan stage 1 spring kit primarily for an esthetic drop. From my readings, Dinan is the only spring kit that allows for OEM travel - in fact, greater than OEM travel. There's an informative (at least for me) sticky thread by rldzhao in the technical section, and Steve Dinan's suspension video is pretty informative too.

Published to be 1/2" front and back for Stage 1. Probably correct, even though I didn't bother measuring the exact drop. Here's what my before and after looks like:

Stock suspension, 19" wheels (winter setup), 235/255 tires.
vs.
Dinan Stage 1, OEM 19" 220s, 245/265 tires.

Hey, Thanks much Chowster, thats a great comparison and I like the drop.

Looks very good to me

this will be the way to go!

CarbonAlpine · 08-02-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Denk

I do and mine isn't harsh at all. Non EDC suspension feels pretty much like the normal setting on EDC. I've got the Dinan Stage 1 and I like the ride better than before. Less bounce, slightly firmer but comfy and the handling feels better. 1/2" drop all around, looks perfect to me...I'm not into the slammed look. I've got new wheels coming and plan to post some pics as soon as they're on.

Did you do e36 bumpstops? Has your car bottomed out at all? I am planning on doing rd or h&r on my non edc. I would just love some feedback...

Thanks

Chowster · 08-02-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CarbonAlpine

Did you do e36 bumpstops? Has your car bottomed out at all? I am planning on doing rd or h&r on my non edc. I would just love some feedback...

Thanks

Dinan suspension kits have custom bump stops as part of the kit (which Denk and I both have). It's part of their system to maintain/increase the suspension travel while lowering the car. I believe the usage of E36 bumpstops is to emulate the Dinan setup, when used in combination with other springs (Eibach, H&R, RD, etc.).

wisesoul · 08-02-2011, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chowster

Dinan suspension kits have custom bump stops as part of the kit (which Denk and I both have). It's part of their system to maintain/increase the suspension travel while lowering the car. I believe the usage of E36 bumpstops is to emulate the Dinan setup, when used in combination with other springs (Eibach, H&R, RD, etc.).

Dinan bumpstops have the same part number as E36 M3 bumpstops. They are the same exact component.

Denk · 08-02-2011, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wisesoul

Dinan bumpstops have the same part number as E36 M3 bumpstops. They are the same exact component.

Yep, OEM perch's and mounts too...shaved of course.

wisesoul · 08-02-2011, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Denk

Yep, OEM perch's and mounts too...shaved of course.

So you pay Dinan 1K for springs, and the guide supports you already have but shorter, and E36 bumpstops? Good solution, a bit overpriced.

Green-Eggs · 08-03-2011, 12:53 AM

Choice 1. KW Sleeve-Over (adjust how you like)
2. Eibach springs since you seemed concerned about comfort & ride height

dcgolfdr · 08-03-2011, 08:49 AM

If you are going to get springs and are at all thinking about camber plates, do them at the same time to avoid labor costs. I have the Dinan setup and thus far I am happy but will eventually get a coilover setup.

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