Akrapovic evolution exhaust install

ihyln · 04-10-2009, 10:12 AM

holy fuck. i want. $5k though....

naveenb · 04-10-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ihyln

holy fuck. i want. $5k though....

wow...it does look and sound nice, but five large...wow.

consolidated · 04-10-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by naveenb

wow...it does look and sound nice, but five large...wow.

Consider that it's a header back system with high flow cats and made of titanium and comparable in cost to quite a few of the stainless systems for an equal setup I think it's actually a good deal. Certainly a better deal to me than a $12K ti Ericsson or a similarly priced Vorsteiner/Encore Innovation badged ti system.

Also, from BMW to spec a Ti Akrapovic for their GT4 factory racecar is a considerable endorsement, for peace of mind if not some bragging rights.

naveenb · 04-10-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by consolidated

Consider that it's a header back system with high flow cats and made of titanium and comparable in cost to quite a few of the stainless systems for an equal setup I think it's actually a good deal. Certainly a better deal to me than a $12K ti Ericsson or a similarly priced Vorsteiner/Encore Innovation badged ti system.

Also, from BMW to spec a Ti Akrapovic for their GT4 factory racecar is a considerable endorsement, for peace of mind if not some bragging rights.

i agree with you. my two cents, if we buy this tomorrow, is there a US retailer that will support this system?

nkweisberg · 04-11-2009, 10:59 PM

I have received a few PM's asking more about the sound of this exhaust so I figured an update was in order.

At idle it a good bit louder than stock, under acceleration up to around 4k it's definitely louder but a much better sound (to my ears). Above 6k it's not that much louder. At cruising it's definitely no louder than stock. Before putting the exhaust on I took a long road trip with my non-autoenthusiast brother and did a shorter trip with him today. He agreed that it was no louder at cruising with this new exhaust. My father-in-law looked at me like I was a schmuck when I started the car today but then again he routinely drives his lexus 55mph in the left lane.

The Akrapovic exhaust is definitely expensive but looks to be extremely well engineered. When you put together the cost of the other exhausts plus xpipes it's not all that much more for a much more exotic system. There does feel to be more torque in the middle rev band with this exhaust installed. Not as punchy down low as my prior 335 but that engine didn't pull to redline like this one does.

At the track yesterday was looking forward to inflicting an all out db assault but I was a bit overshadowed by the Porsche Daytona prototype and the multiple Porsche Cup cars that were running. Oh and don't forget the 430 Scuderia, the 599's, 360 Strasdale and the Ford GT. I asked my friend how I sounded going by and he said "pretty quiet". Guess I didn't stand much chance against a Daytona Prototype and Ferrari's best? Seems there is always somebody with a bigger gun.

That being said I am enjoying the overall sound change inside of the car with this new exhaust. I still need to hear it from the outside going by, but to do so I'd have to let somebody else drive it.

I've been fortunate to have experienced some exotic cars on the track and I think the M3 engine is stellar. Loves to rev and does not run out of breath at the upper end of the rev range like most cars. Except for the back straight where the M can get up to around 140/145mph the remainder of the track can be taken in either 2nd or 3rd (mostly 3rd). The engine in the 911S tends to lose steam around 1500rpm below redline and is best shifted early. The GT3 engine is great and keeps pulling. I have read many good and many bad reviews of the DCT and for my part I think it is a brilliant transmission. Smoother than the auto in my prior 335 when tooling around town and very responsive on the track. The biggest downfall of the M3 is it's mass. I love this car and would definitely buy it again but this a great road car that can be used on the track, not a great track car. Even the 430 scuderia has compromises built into it that a dedicated track car does not. I expect to track this car once a week as well as use it as my daily driver. Providing finances cooperate I'll likely invest in a track only toy in 3 years or so. Perhaps a Radical or Ariel Atom?

We are all fortunate to have an M3.

SRC · 04-11-2009, 11:24 PM

Nice read, many thanks...!

Doru in Romania · 04-12-2009, 01:16 AM

beautiful exhaust. this is what i call a quality product. price becomes irrelevant, as others already stated, it's not even that high compared with others.

AlpWtE92 · 04-14-2009, 11:20 AM

Very nice exhaust system.

Does anyone know if a car with this exahust will still pass emissions tests - more specifically CA emissions tests? The Akropovic website does say that the pipes come with "2 x 100 cpsi sports catalysts...."

Also, any updates on whether any error messages come up with the exhaust installed?

Checkcaptain · 04-14-2009, 01:48 PM

No error messages with the attached adapters!

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Originally Posted by AlpWtE92

Very nice exhaust system.

Does anyone know if a car with this exahust will still pass emissions tests - more specifically CA emissions tests? The Akropovic website does say that the pipes come with "2 x 100 cpsi sports catalysts...."

Also, any updates on whether any error messages come up with the exhaust installed?

makots · 04-19-2009, 10:45 AM

anyone know any US dealers that would be able to bring in these pipes? or anyone in general other than Florian at a-workx?

Doru in Romania · 04-19-2009, 11:21 AM

you can order directly to akrapovic in slovenia. got exact quote as from florian in germany though. florian added lambda dummy.

mikewads · 04-19-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by makots

anyone know any US dealers that would be able to bring in these pipes? or anyone in general other than Florian at a-workx?

Contact Ralf Krenzer at RalfKrenzer@t-online.de

I ordered the complete header back system from him which is currently be shipped to me. He includes the O2 simulators also.

I will be posting photos of the system once I receive it next week.

0-60Motorsports · 04-20-2009, 06:10 AM

WOW! amazing!

makots · 04-20-2009, 12:54 PM

so just to clarify, it is 5k for the whole system? or just the muffler? and for the whole system, do we need a software or anything so that CEL's dont come up? and what about inspections in the US? will we encounter any problems?

dak125 · 04-20-2009, 10:37 PM

The system sounds/looks great. I'm curious how this affects BMW's warranty? Specifically due to the header back system.

MERGANSERS · 04-21-2009, 07:36 AM

Just place order directly with company, FOB Ashevile, NC.
Note the part number 2!

Should answer any questions regarding indicato lights.

Your order(s):
Exhaust system for M
__________________________________________________ _________________________
__________________________________________________ _________________________
Currency: USD
No. Part number
Description
Quantity UM
Quotation
Unit price
Discount[%]
__________________________________________________ _________________________
VAT[%]
Item total
1
110800
BMW M3 (E92/93)
1
PC
5.393,44
0,00
0,00
5.393,44
S-BME92/3M3E
EVOLUTION SYSTEM
Titanium exhaust system with two separate Mufflers,
set of 100 cpsi catalysts, Titanium removable and adjustable round
Tailpipes dia 90 mm
__________________________________________________ _________________________
2
110972
CATALYSTS PROBE LAMBDA
1
PC
356,57
0,00
0,00
356,57
P-LBSB3
2 × probe lambda
It is used to prevent the engine Check LED or pollution anomaly LED from
lighting up if you have removed the catalyser or you have installed one
that is rather permeable or insufficiently catalysing. It is necesary to
use it if the ECU stays unchanged(STOCK).
__________________________________________________ _________________________
______________________________________
Gross value
5.750,01 USD
Transport charge
250,00 USD
Net value
6.000,01 USD
______________________________________
Total:
6.000,01 USD

makots · 04-21-2009, 09:17 AM

the exhaust looks so good. But here is my situation. I currently have an AA X Pipe with HFC mated on a Eisenmann Race exhaust. I really want to get the Akra Evo system but power wise would I be gaining or loosing? What you guys think? Weight has to be taken into consideration too. As I think the Akra system is lighter than my system now? Correct me if I'm wrong. And I was just worried with smog and emissions tests in the US? And just o2 sensors always failing? I dont want to tune the ECU and I dont want to always need to change the o2 sensors from them burning out. Anyone with past experience could chime in on this? Not too familiar with o2 sensors so hope someone could help me out. All I've heard is that they burn out very often. I was also thinking of doing the Akra muffler and mating it to my AA X pipe with HFC. What you guys think? I love the way the tips look on the Akra man! Orgasmic. haha. Let me know what you guys think!

SS32 · 04-21-2009, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MERGANSERS

Just place order directly with company, FOB Ashevile, NC.
Note the part number 2!

Aheville is probably the last place I'd expect to find a distributor, very cool.

signes · 04-21-2009, 12:33 PM

$6k? Love the sound of this thing, but seriously, that is seems ridiculous for exhaust mod...

dogears · 04-21-2009, 12:42 PM

I'd be interested in if the Lambda simulators code after a little while. My sources tell me they have been notoriously inconsistant at preventing codes in the past. Not referring to Akro, but in general. Anyone care to elaborate more? I am curious as to how they work.

Ca$hOnly · 04-21-2009, 01:13 PM

Meh...I don't think this is worth 6k, but to each their own. I'd rather buy a Rolex.

ersin · 04-21-2009, 01:35 PM

Titanium is expensive and difficult to work with. I think for a titanium exhaust system with its concomitant weight savings and better looks, that $6K is certainly reasonable.

I have one question: given that the system has cats, am I to understand that this will pass emission tests?

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ihyln Banned 85 Rep 3,384 Posts Drives: M3post sucks Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: M3post sucks iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00] 2002 530i [0.00]	holy fuck. i want. $5k though....
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04-11-2009, 10:59 PM	#49
nkweisberg Private 16 Rep 72 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Le Mans Blue / Bamboo Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South-East Florida iTrader: (1)	update I have received a few PM's asking more about the sound of this exhaust so I figured an update was in order. At idle it a good bit louder than stock, under acceleration up to around 4k it's definitely louder but a much better sound (to my ears). Above 6k it's not that much louder. At cruising it's definitely no louder than stock. Before putting the exhaust on I took a long road trip with my non-autoenthusiast brother and did a shorter trip with him today. He agreed that it was no louder at cruising with this new exhaust. My father-in-law looked at me like I was a schmuck when I started the car today but then again he routinely drives his lexus 55mph in the left lane. The Akrapovic exhaust is definitely expensive but looks to be extremely well engineered. When you put together the cost of the other exhausts plus xpipes it's not all that much more for a much more exotic system. There does feel to be more torque in the middle rev band with this exhaust installed. Not as punchy down low as my prior 335 but that engine didn't pull to redline like this one does. At the track yesterday was looking forward to inflicting an all out db assault but I was a bit overshadowed by the Porsche Daytona prototype and the multiple Porsche Cup cars that were running. Oh and don't forget the 430 Scuderia, the 599's, 360 Strasdale and the Ford GT. I asked my friend how I sounded going by and he said "pretty quiet". Guess I didn't stand much chance against a Daytona Prototype and Ferrari's best? Seems there is always somebody with a bigger gun. That being said I am enjoying the overall sound change inside of the car with this new exhaust. I still need to hear it from the outside going by, but to do so I'd have to let somebody else drive it. I've been fortunate to have experienced some exotic cars on the track and I think the M3 engine is stellar. Loves to rev and does not run out of breath at the upper end of the rev range like most cars. Except for the back straight where the M can get up to around 140/145mph the remainder of the track can be taken in either 2nd or 3rd (mostly 3rd). The engine in the 911S tends to lose steam around 1500rpm below redline and is best shifted early. The GT3 engine is great and keeps pulling. I have read many good and many bad reviews of the DCT and for my part I think it is a brilliant transmission. Smoother than the auto in my prior 335 when tooling around town and very responsive on the track. The biggest downfall of the M3 is it's mass. I love this car and would definitely buy it again but this a great road car that can be used on the track, not a great track car. Even the 430 scuderia has compromises built into it that a dedicated track car does not. I expect to track this car once a week as well as use it as my daily driver. Providing finances cooperate I'll likely invest in a track only toy in 3 years or so. Perhaps a Radical or Ariel Atom? We are all fortunate to have an M3.
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04-12-2009, 01:16 AM	#51
Doru in Romania Private First Class 12 Rep 148 Posts Drives: 2012 525d xDrive Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bucharest / ROMANIA iTrader: (0)	beautiful exhaust. this is what i call a quality product. price becomes irrelevant, as others already stated, it's not even that high compared with others. __________________ 2012 525d xDrive
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04-14-2009, 11:20 AM	#52
AlpWtE92 First Lieutenant 22 Rep 319 Posts Drives: '08 AW E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SF / Bay Area iTrader: (0)	Very nice exhaust system. Does anyone know if a car with this exahust will still pass emissions tests - more specifically CA emissions tests? The Akropovic website does say that the pipes come with "2 x 100 cpsi sports catalysts...." Also, any updates on whether any error messages come up with the exhaust installed?
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04-19-2009, 10:45 AM	#54
makots First Lieutenant 49 Rep 341 Posts Drives: '08 e92 M3 AW 6MT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (2)	anyone know any US dealers that would be able to bring in these pipes? or anyone in general other than Florian at a-workx? __________________ 2008 AW/BLK M3 6MT / Eisenmann Race / H&R / HID Angels / 3D Front & Rear Lip / UUC SSK / TE37 / Turner Pulleys / 4.10FD & 2 Clutch Salisbury Diff / Escort 9500ci
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04-19-2009, 11:21 AM	#55
Doru in Romania Private First Class 12 Rep 148 Posts Drives: 2012 525d xDrive Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bucharest / ROMANIA iTrader: (0)	you can order directly to akrapovic in slovenia. got exact quote as from florian in germany though. florian added lambda dummy. __________________ 2012 525d xDrive
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04-20-2009, 06:10 AM	#57
0-60Motorsports Brigadier General 792 Rep 3,151 Posts Drives: BMW M3 JB 04 Coupe Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kingdom of Bahrain iTrader: (1)	WOW! amazing! __________________ Current Mods: 2004 E46 M3cs JB/CSL 2010 E70 X5M AW/BLACK 2011 VW Golf R DSG White/Black IG: @060Motorsports
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04-20-2009, 12:54 PM	#58
makots First Lieutenant 49 Rep 341 Posts Drives: '08 e92 M3 AW 6MT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (2)	so just to clarify, it is 5k for the whole system? or just the muffler? and for the whole system, do we need a software or anything so that CEL's dont come up? and what about inspections in the US? will we encounter any problems? __________________ 2008 AW/BLK M3 6MT / Eisenmann Race / H&R / HID Angels / 3D Front & Rear Lip / UUC SSK / TE37 / Turner Pulleys / 4.10FD & 2 Clutch Salisbury Diff / Escort 9500ci
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04-20-2009, 10:37 PM	#59
dak125 Private First Class 16 Rep 164 Posts Drives: 2005 330Ci ZHP Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago iTrader: (1)	The system sounds/looks great. I'm curious how this affects BMW's warranty? Specifically due to the header back system.
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04-21-2009, 07:36 AM	#60
MERGANSERS MERGANSERS 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 e93 Space Grey Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ASHEVILLE, NC iTrader: (0)	Akrapovic evolution car exhaust system m3 E93 Just place order directly with company, FOB Ashevile, NC. Note the part number 2! Should answer any questions regarding indicato lights. Your order(s): Exhaust system for M __________________________________________________ _________________________ __________________________________________________ _________________________ Currency: USD No. Part number Description Quantity UM Quotation Unit price Discount[%] __________________________________________________ _________________________ VAT[%] Item total 1 110800 BMW M3 (E92/93) 1 PC 5.393,44 0,00 0,00 5.393,44 S-BME92/3M3E EVOLUTION SYSTEM Titanium exhaust system with two separate Mufflers, set of 100 cpsi catalysts, Titanium removable and adjustable round Tailpipes dia 90 mm __________________________________________________ _________________________ 2 110972 CATALYSTS PROBE LAMBDA 1 PC 356,57 0,00 0,00 356,57 P-LBSB3 2 × probe lambda It is used to prevent the engine Check LED or pollution anomaly LED from lighting up if you have removed the catalyser or you have installed one that is rather permeable or insufficiently catalysing. It is necesary to use it if the ECU stays unchanged(STOCK). __________________________________________________ _________________________ ______________________________________ Gross value 5.750,01 USD Transport charge 250,00 USD Net value 6.000,01 USD ______________________________________ Total: 6.000,01 USD
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04-21-2009, 09:17 AM	#61
makots First Lieutenant 49 Rep 341 Posts Drives: '08 e92 M3 AW 6MT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (2)	the exhaust looks so good. But here is my situation. I currently have an AA X Pipe with HFC mated on a Eisenmann Race exhaust. I really want to get the Akra Evo system but power wise would I be gaining or loosing? What you guys think? Weight has to be taken into consideration too. As I think the Akra system is lighter than my system now? Correct me if I'm wrong. And I was just worried with smog and emissions tests in the US? And just o2 sensors always failing? I dont want to tune the ECU and I dont want to always need to change the o2 sensors from them burning out. Anyone with past experience could chime in on this? Not too familiar with o2 sensors so hope someone could help me out. All I've heard is that they burn out very often. I was also thinking of doing the Akra muffler and mating it to my AA X pipe with HFC. What you guys think? I love the way the tips look on the Akra man! Orgasmic. haha. Let me know what you guys think! __________________ 2008 AW/BLK M3 6MT / Eisenmann Race / H&R / HID Angels / 3D Front & Rear Lip / UUC SSK / TE37 / Turner Pulleys / 4.10FD & 2 Clutch Salisbury Diff / Escort 9500ci
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04-21-2009, 12:33 PM	#63
signes Brigadier General 199 Rep 4,318 Posts Drives: 991 GT3 RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Living at (almost...) 9k iTrader: (5)	$6k? Love the sound of this thing, but seriously, that is seems ridiculous for exhaust mod...
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04-21-2009, 12:42 PM	#64
dogears My master volume goes to 11 59 Rep 467 Posts Drives: 2021 BMW M5 Competition Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ iTrader: (0)	I'd be interested in if the Lambda simulators code after a little while. My sources tell me they have been notoriously inconsistant at preventing codes in the past. Not referring to Akro, but in general. Anyone care to elaborate more? I am curious as to how they work. __________________ 1987 Buick Grand National, 2009 BMW E90 M3, 2016 Audi S6, 2018 MB E63S AMG, currently in 2021 M5 Competition
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04-21-2009, 01:13 PM	#65
Ca$hOnly Major 47 Rep 1,077 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: In ur fridge, eatin ur foodz iTrader: (5)	Meh...I don't think this is worth 6k, but to each their own. I'd rather buy a Rolex. __________________ Last edited by Ca$hOnly; 04-21-2009 at 01:32 PM..
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04-21-2009, 01:35 PM	#66
ersin Brigadier General 126 Rep 4,145 Posts Drives: 17 YMB F80 M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maryland iTrader: (1)	Titanium is expensive and difficult to work with. I think for a titanium exhaust system with its concomitant weight savings and better looks, that $6K is certainly reasonable. I have one question: given that the system has cats, am I to understand that this will pass emission tests? __________________ 2017 F80 YMB.
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