Blackstone Analysis Of S65 at 65k miles (using Liqui Moly)

W/// · 03-23-2013, 04:55 AM

Looks pretty good to me. I saw that some other guys had really high lead content. I'm the second owner of the car, bought it at 57k miles. Did my first oil change right at 60k with Liqui Moly 10W60 and MANN filter. Will test oil again in 7500 miles.

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aussiem3 · 03-23-2013, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by W///

Looks pretty good to me. I saw that some other guys had really high lead content. I'm the second owner of the car, bought it at 57k miles. Did my first oil change right at 60k with Liqui Moly 10W60 and MANN filter. Will test oil again in 7500 miles.

What's the benefit of a low lead count?

W/// · 03-23-2013, 10:03 AM

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What's the benefit of a low lead count?

I'm by no means an expert, but I believe high lead count means bearing issues. Always a scary thought

Richbot · 03-23-2013, 04:05 PM

Interesting there is no moly in liqui-moly

aussiem3 · 03-23-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by W///

I'm by no means an expert, but I believe high lead count means bearing issues. Always a scary thought

Thank you. That's a good sign.

ec_E92 · 03-25-2013, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by W///

Looks pretty good to me. I saw that some other guys had really high lead content. I'm the second owner of the car, bought it at 57k miles. Did my first oil change right at 60k with Liqui Moly 10W60 and MANN filter. Will test oil again in 7500 miles.

Results look good and similar to mine. I started using LM 10w60 for interval changes at 30k, and then exclusively every 7500 after 50k. I'm at 65k now and have been very happy with this oil.

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Vic311 · 03-25-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Richbot

Interesting there is no moly in liqui-moly

PhillyNate · 03-25-2013, 05:34 PM

I top off with this stuff and swear by it! Won't use anything but when a little low. Car has almost totally stopped consuming oil. Great stuff and is an approved oil in Europe as I understand.

thekurgan · 03-25-2013, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Richbot

Interesting there is no moly in liqui-moly

I think their 10w-40 has moly within it.

Radiation Joe · 03-25-2013, 07:24 PM

If you want Molybdenum in your oil get Redline ...

Richbot · 03-25-2013, 08:02 PM

Your analysis was what I was thinking of, I use their sae 30 and 20 in my racecar engines and it looks better on the reports than that liqui-moly, apples and oranges of course

ms372 · 03-26-2013, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Richbot

Interesting there is no moly in liqui-moly

+1

M3PO · 03-26-2013, 03:19 PM

I have been seeing lead levels of about 4 times what you have running Castrol for 7.5 to 8k miles. I think I am going to switch at the next change to see if that brings the bearing wear into check.

Regarding the moly, IIRC, I think moly is sort of an "old school" oil additive. As in it was a popular additive in the past. That may be where they got their name but have since moved on to new oil formulations.

Richbot · 03-26-2013, 08:12 PM

TWS, for comparison:

W/// · 03-28-2013, 07:12 AM

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I have been seeing lead levels of about 4 times what you have running Castrol for 7.5 to 8k miles. I think I am going to switch at the next change to see if that brings the bearing wear into check.

Regarding the moly, IIRC, I think moly is sort of an "old school" oil additive. As in it was a popular additive in the past. That may be where they got their name but have since moved on to new oil formulations.

Doesn't seem like TWS has that much of it either. The V10 guys seem to love this stuff, so I thought it was definitely worth a try. Best price I found at the time was at BavAuto. Got myself 4 jugs + filter for around
$180 (and free shipping)

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Originally Posted by Richbot

TWS, for comparison:

Thanks, good to know. I'm going to stick to LM for a while.

thekurgan · 03-28-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by M3PO

I have been seeing lead levels of about 4 times what you have running Castrol for 7.5 to 8k miles. I think I am going to switch at the next change to see if that brings the bearing wear into check.

Regarding the moly, IIRC, I think moly is sort of an "old school" oil additive. As in it was a popular additive in the past. That may be where they got their name but have since moved on to new oil formulations.

Seems like moly is being used more and more since ZDDP's used less in motor oil.

M3PO · 03-28-2013, 06:38 PM

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Seems like moly is being used more and more since ZDDP's used less in motor oil.

Yeah, now that you mention it, it's ZDDP that I was thinking of.

ec_E92 · 03-28-2013, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by W///

Doesn't seem like TWS has that much of it either. The V10 guys seem to love this stuff, so I thought it was definitely worth a try. Best price I found at the time was at BavAuto. Got myself 4 jugs + filter for around
$180 (and free shipping)

If you watch their specials they sometimes give away free filters for each 5L jug of oil. I've been able to accumulate a stockpile of filters (2 filters free for a 10L oil change). Then oil changes are under $100

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