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06-27-2012, 09:30 AM | #441 |
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Are there any tuners in NY that can do this?
Or has anyone in NY had any luck with the dealer updating it? What did they charge? How long did it take?
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06-27-2012, 07:12 PM | #442 |
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I had the dealer update the software on my 08, updating my 080E software. Maybe my car is different since I always run mix of 93oct and 100oct. I honestly think my car feels slower, with a loss of mid-range and throttle response. I dyno'd my car right before taking it in for the update so tomorrow I will re dyno it with the newest update and see the gains/losses and post them here.
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06-27-2012, 09:00 PM | #444 |
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I updated my 08 6sp and I notice a difference. Before I thought my car was slow but now I can actually feel the car pull. But they also changed my spark plugs at the same visit with 37k on the odo.
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Hey fellow M'ers , i took my 08 e93 dct in this monday for the update and it turns out that i have ISTA 2.39.4 . The SA told me that it was the latest SW they had and i told him that it was impossible since 2.46.x should be the series that were being flashed now. He quickly looked for the shop foreman and brought him over to me to ask why ? was i looking to update . I explained to him that after a lot of research i found that the new software was a hp gain over the one i currently had, and he quickly replied saying that i was impossible for bmw to release this because it would mean it would raise emissions and blah blah. Also that if a module went of i would be at fault, and that their computer were having issues. Guy was very hesitant and kept coming with excuses about that there was no way that the car would gain hp from the flash, and that it was so easy to mess up module. Anyways im taking it to a tuner shop tomorrow to get it done. Is there a difference in between the dealer sw and tuner shop Sw??. And what is the software that i have now and how old is it. Ista 2.39.4
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06-28-2012, 09:54 AM | #447 |
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Had a chance to re-dyno my car this morning. This confirms what I had thought and felt on the street. I lost power with the new update. I can only assume the gains people are getting with the latest update are due to the lower octane fuel they are using. I always run a mix of 93/100oct and maybe when the car isn't octane limited there are no gains.
Here is the dyno comparisons, same dyno, same car/mods fuel in the tank. Dyno was done 4 days apart to allow time for the car to adapt to the new version software. Mods: Drop in airfilter, undedrive pulley, 2nd cat delete 93oct/100oct mix Last edited by TopSpeedM3; 06-28-2012 at 10:17 AM.. |
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The interesting thing here is that the dynos show it making very similar power; but only in certain areas. Are you going to downgrade back? ...if that is even possible. Thanks for the data. |
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I have no plans on changing the software as I will be installing a SC in the not to distant future. |
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Incorrect. Autologic can downgrade SVs if desired.
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06-28-2012, 11:40 AM | #454 |
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updated mine from 080e to 231e and although I dont notice performance changes per se, I do see fuel consumption improvements; which I am happy about!
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I don't see a statistically significant change anywhere other than in the torque at ~2750 and you shouldn't be going WOT at 2750 anyway.
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I just finished reading all the posts. very interesting! i am still not sure if I should ask about the 231E software update or just say the hell with it! Also, I felt like I was reading about a Jerry Springer episode or something like that half the time...don't fight! If you want to, put the gloves on and step into a ring or cage. can direct you to some friends in Cal who can lend the space and referee.
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Either way, one car, one dyno, with special fuel. I dunno...need more data points to confirm. ...unless one of the tuners can tell us what is actually different about the 231+, we are all pretty much guessing. I know that Bren from brentuning has stated that they relaxed the knock sensitivity. |
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I suspect some changes were made in the program area which have to do with the ion sensing knock control parameters.
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