S63 swap into a E9X?

xaappx · 01-04-2016, 03:41 PM

I'm sure a S63 motor out of a F10 M5 won't be cheap, but neither is rebuilding a S65. So I'm curious, has anything thought how much it would cost to swap a S63 into a E9X and if it would fit?

People are dyno'ing 700whp on the F10 M5s with bolt ons, it would make for a pretty fast M3.

There have been talks of 1000hp S65 builds, both turbo and supercharged but after 6 years of the E9X no one has done it.

Thoughts?

elim11 · 01-04-2016, 06:02 PM

The saying goes...With enough money, anything is possible....

m3aviator · 01-04-2016, 07:18 PM

If it physically fits, you can get a motec ecu to run it.

OM VT3 · 01-04-2016, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by m3aviator

If it physically fits, you can get a motec ecu to run it.

Lol no its not that easy

8600RPM · 01-04-2016, 08:46 PM

A motec ain't running a valvtronic, turbo. Vanos v8

OM VT3 · 01-04-2016, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 8600RPM

A motec ain't running a valvtronic, turbo. Vanos v8

Yes it can do that quite easy....hard part is everything is CAN controlled so everything has to be reverse engineered from engine to CAN that makes the dash work

M3ANMACHINE · 01-04-2016, 10:15 PM

might as well just buy a different car at that point. engine is prolly more than 50% the price of your e9x

REV1 · 01-04-2016, 10:22 PM

Is that the engine from the new M4?

IMG · 01-05-2016, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by REV1

Is that the engine from the new M4?

S63 is M5/6
S55 is M3/4

AreOut · 01-05-2016, 04:20 PM

just get a SCed S65, with couple of mods you'll easily see north of 600whp, no point in going beyond that with RWD

vsix · 01-05-2016, 04:41 PM

Such a swap will result in chaos.
Lost money, nerve's AND hair's...
Why even thinking about such B.S. invest your money into an S65 rebuit.

ilikebmxbikes · 01-05-2016, 05:29 PM

you can do it. like others said, it wont be cheap.

If i were to do it, I would buy an entire salvage f10 m5 and swap EVERYTHING.

REV1 · 01-05-2016, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by IMG

S63 is M5/6
S55 is M3/4

Thanks..

wheatpaste · 01-06-2016, 01:03 AM

How about a supercharged S85? Seems like it'd be a more straight-forward swap with more power potential.

IMG · 01-06-2016, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by REV1

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMG

S63 is M5/6
S55 is M3/4

Thanks..

Np

IMG · 01-06-2016, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wheatpaste

How about a supercharged S85? Seems like it'd be a more straight-forward swap with more power potential.

How much power are you looking to make ? Mine made 785whp at 14psi and I still have 2 more lbs to go.

wheatpaste · 01-06-2016, 04:43 AM

Just speaking theoretically. I have no real interest in chasing huge power, just thought an SC S85 swap could be interesting if someone was looking for big power.

785 WHP is impressive man!

IMG · 01-06-2016, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wheatpaste

Just speaking theoretically. I have no real interest in chasing huge power, just thought an SC S85 swap could be interesting if someone was looking for big power.

785 WHP is impressive man!

Thank you !

In that sense, yes absolutely !
I think Ess did such a build in Europe a while back. An S85 E92 M3, Dont recal if it was blown or not.

Sered · 01-06-2016, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AreOut

just get a SCed S65, with couple of mods you'll easily see north of 600whp, no point in going beyond that with RWD

LOL.

AreOut · 01-07-2016, 12:59 PM

uhm what exactly you found funny there?

m3london · 01-10-2016, 01:42 PM

Didn't Manhart do an S63 swap into an e92 a few years ago?

Zulu Saffa · 01-11-2016, 09:18 PM

Apparently it (and just about anything you can imagine) is possible in the U.A.E:

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wheatpaste Private First Class 12 Rep 101 Posts Drives: 08 E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (3)	Just speaking theoretically. I have no real interest in chasing huge power, just thought an SC S85 swap could be interesting if someone was looking for big power. 785 WHP is impressive man!
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