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No mention of the fuel delivery system. It is as important to have a healthy fuel setup as it is to have a LC motor with these higher pressure systems.
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but again i would never fully trust them either! nor would i buy from them. but thats the ONLY shop i know of that has a "warranty" |
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Would you happen to have a copy of this list?
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You have to understand if it was that reliable to squeeze another 250 hp out of the motor then BMW would have probably come a lot closer to that number. Adding supercharger to a motor like S65 is asking for reliability issues down the line. Cant fault BMW for that, and cant fault S/C manufacturer for that. That is just part of the game when you start moding |
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My 11' had rod bearings replaced a few months ago as well under warranty, car started making clicking noise from the driver side. BMW took apart the engine 2-3 times before replacing the rod bearings.
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OP, do you have an update for us on what BMW said about your car? I know a lot of people are chiming in here with "what if's" and such, but we want to hear from you what the latest is.
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What are the sort of failure rates being experienced?
If the failure rate of unmodified engines is say 1 in 5000 and the failure rate of supercharged engines is 1 in 50 then the odds of the OPs failure being due to factory faulty rod bearings is 1%. Obviously these are guessimates but the unmodified rod bearing failure rate does seem to be anecdotally very small....the supercharged engine failure rate is far more of a guess on my part. |
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Did you have a ticking noise? Or did your engine grenade itself like the OP's.
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sorry to hear about that mark...I've seen your car at ACM many times and it was one of my favorites. Did you have any ticking noises before it blew? Even after removing my blower and all engine modifications my car has a ticking (sometimes pretty loud) sound to this day. Also, its new to me that high performance rod bearings are now required for the 650 kit.....there are at least a handful local people running that kit on stock rod bearings, never heard of that until now.
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have any of you guys with ticking or actual bearing failure ever had any oil analysis done? Theoretically bearing failure should be somewhat predictable based on the results.
The 650 kit appears to have been quietly updated to included high performance rod bearings somewhat recently, it would be good to hear from ESS about it though. |
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Technically you can by dropping the oil pan, but is the headache worth the measly extra 25 hp over the 625 kit? No IMHO. I've raced 650 kits before when I had my 625 kit and the cars were nose and nose - I could never tell the performance difference between the cars on the street or at the track, it was spitting hairs at that point.
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