777-200 Missing

[SteveMD]

Well, it is looking more and more like the plane was 'stolen' and is somewhere in Asia.

It can't have crashed on land because the FDR would be squawking and the signal picked up.

This is very bizarre but how about this:

1. Well organized and trained group of hijackers gain access to and take over the cockpit.

2. Passengers get wind of this and fight back.

3. Plane apparently climbs to 45000 feet in a series of violent manouvers to subdue the passengers.

4. 'Pilot' depressurizes the passenger cabin (I understand that is possible), masks drop, O2 eventually runs out, passengers die.

5. 'Pilot' flies to places unknown although how, without being picked up by any sovereign state's radar, I have no idea.

Any pilots out there like to comment?

[PINeely]

^^^ Unlikely IMO. Of the passengers on board most of them would have had cell phones and in the event of a hijacking they'd be calling people, but nobody did. As far as the passengers on board were concerned it was business as usual. I am betting that the pilot turned back due to some malfunction but became disoriented and flew a few degrees in the wrong direction.

[F1Venom]

Cell phones makes sense unless they threatened to kill anyone seen on a phone.

[SteveMD]

Originally Posted by PINeely

^^^ Unlikely IMO. Of the passengers on board most of them would have had cell phones and in the event of a hijacking they'd be calling people, but nobody did. As far as the passengers on board were concerned it was business as usual. I am betting that the pilot turned back due to some malfunction but became disoriented and flew a few degrees in the wrong direction.

Cell phones don't work over water once you are more than 20 miles from land. The plane did not have 'WiFi' and therefore didn't have internet connection to the outside world.

[F1Venom]

Originally Posted by SteveMD

Cell phones don't work over water once you are more than 20 miles from land. The plane did not have 'WiFi' and therefore didn't have internet connection to the outside world.

News has it that it might be in Pakistan. I wouldn't be surprised, they hid Osama quite well...

[richardbb85]

Originally Posted by F1Venom

News has it that it might be in Pakistan. I wouldn't be surprised, they hid Osama quite well...

yea i wouldn't be surprised as welll

[SteveMD]

The Pakistani government has denied all claims that the plane is in the country.

I think the fact that 'they' hid Osama was simply incompetance

[jwzimm]

Here is further evidence that it was the flight crew that is responsible for this planes disappearance: http://seattletimes.com/html/nationw...ysiaplane.html

The last transmission to ATC was made AFTER the comms equipment had already been shut down.

[synclastica_86]

If the plane is in the hands of a terrorist, we'd have heard the demands by now. It's not like they can hide the plane somewhere and sell it later to the highest bidder. I don't think that there's a market for stolen planes, otherwise there'd be way more hijacking.

Call me cynical, but I think that the plane is possibly hijacked and was shot down by some agency. If this occurs at attitude and they used a missile, it is quite possible that the debris are quite small (because of the explosions) and spread out over a large area (the low density makes it difficult to find). No one wants to admit that they shot down a passenger jet and the culprit country just joins the search and pretends to search for a plane that no longer exists. And no, I don't wear tinfoil hats to prevent the government from reading my mind. I'm just proposing a possibly theory.

[kevinbahnz]

Originally Posted by synclastica_86

If the plane is in the hands of a terrorist, we'd have heard the demands by now. It's not like they can hide the plane somewhere and sell it later to the highest bidder. I don't think that there's a market for stolen planes, otherwise there'd be way more hijacking.

Call me cynical, but I think that the plane is possibly hijacked and was shot down by some agency. If this occurs at attitude and they used a missile, it is quite possible that the debris are quite small (because of the explosions) and spread out over a large area (the low density makes it difficult to find). No one wants to admit that they shot down a passenger jet and the culprit country just joins the search and pretends to search for a plane that no longer exists. And no, I don't wear tinfoil hats to prevent the government from reading my mind. I'm just proposing a possibly theory.

Pakistan said that the plane did not show up on their radars, if it did they would've scrambles jets and what not. I really really hope they find this plane with all 239 passengers alive. But I think its been shot down too.

[solstice]

What baffles me is that if you are able to hijack a plane and fly if for at least 4-5h without a trace good enough to find any solid clues in a week why would you be stupid enough to run out fuel and crash it in the ocean? If crashing in the ocean was your original intent you could have done that immediately and saved yourself a lot of planning and execution risks. It doesn't make sense but who knows. I can't say I trust much coming out of any parties involved.

[NemesisX]

Originally Posted by solstice

What baffles me is that if you are able to hijack a plane and fly if for at least 4-5h without a trace good enough to find any solid clues in a week why would you be stupid enough to run out fuel and crash it in the ocean? If crashing in the ocean was your original intent you could have done that immediately and saved yourself a lot of planning and execution risks. It doesn't make sense but who knows. I can't say I trust much coming out of any parties involved.

This is exactly what's bugging me about this whole situation. Why the 90 degree turn? If your plan is just to kill people, why go through this whole song and dance?

[SteveMD]

Originally Posted by synclastica_86

If the plane is in the hands of a terrorist, we'd have heard the demands by now. It's not like they can hide the plane somewhere and sell it later to the highest bidder. I don't think that there's a market for stolen planes, otherwise there'd be way more hijacking.

Call me cynical, but I think that the plane is possibly hijacked and was shot down by some agency. If this occurs at attitude and they used a missile, it is quite possible that the debris are quite small (because of the explosions) and spread out over a large area (the low density makes it difficult to find). No one wants to admit that they shot down a passenger jet and the culprit country just joins the search and pretends to search for a plane that no longer exists. And no, I don't wear tinfoil hats to prevent the government from reading my mind. I'm just proposing a possibly theory.

A missile launch would have been detected by the satellites of multiple technologically advanced states including many that are neutral/hostile to the US.

So that didn't happen.

[NemesisX]

Apparently the head pilot had some sort of fascination with some "extremist" (according to CNN) political group. He was also once seen wearing a shirt that said "democracy is dead."

Granted, I don't think one can derive anything from those two facts alone but it's something to keep in mind.

[frenchfries]

I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.

[synclastica_86]

Originally Posted by SteveMD

A missile launch would have been detected by the satellites of multiple technologically advanced states including many that are neutral/hostile to the US.

So that didn't happen.

A missile fired from a fighter-interceptor? I don't think that the signal is strong enough to guarantee a detection. Plus, a spy satellite is not in an geostationary orbit, so a satellite may not be looking when the missile was fired.

[NemesisX]

Originally Posted by frenchfries

I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.

[BayMoWe335]

Originally Posted by synclastica_86

If the plane is in the hands of a terrorist, we'd have heard the demands by now. It's not like they can hide the plane somewhere and sell it later to the highest bidder. I don't think that there's a market for stolen planes, otherwise there'd be way more hijacking.

Call me cynical, but I think that the plane is possibly hijacked and was shot down by some agency. If this occurs at attitude and they used a missile, it is quite possible that the debris are quite small (because of the explosions) and spread out over a large area (the low density makes it difficult to find). No one wants to admit that they shot down a passenger jet and the culprit country just joins the search and pretends to search for a plane that no longer exists. And no, I don't wear tinfoil hats to prevent the government from reading my mind. I'm just proposing a possibly theory.

Ridiculous theory.

[fatpanda]

if it didnt crash, those 200+ passengers wld have likely starved to death by now... sickening just thinking abt it..

[blackturbo]

Very interesting theories...

[Maestro]

Well the US government has turned its search efforts to the southern Indian Sea, For what ever the reason they do not believe it flew over land. It is starting to sound like my theory is becoming more likely, It is at the bottom of the ocean at 12,000 feet.

[P1]

For the sake of the families, I hope this gets resolved at some point. In 2014, this shouldn't be left as a mystery. Something will have to pop up at some point. Even if it did crash in a spot at sea that is no-man's-land, bits of the plane will have to wash up ashore due to the strong currents in the region.