I am Challenged to a race with an IS-F

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by FBTO

Of course you are looking for moral support. You want all of your M3 buddies, to stroke your ego saying "Yes Dunky, you are the best, you have the best car", "you should win". The cars are close enough that it will come down to driver....and you are scared!!

You will lose!

See you May 9th and be prepared!

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by baarii

my money is on on you!
cant wait to hear the results

Thank you

[Gearhead999s]

My esteemed challenger used to be quite serious about motorcycling and I obtained a top secret training tape from that era

http://flimmr.passagen.se/movie/moto_training.action

[FBTO]

Originally Posted by baarii

my money is on on you!
cant wait to hear the results

Thank you ....it is not the car that makes you a winner....

[FBTO]

Dunky, my jap bike kicked your fancy Italian bike.....and my jap car will kick your fancy German car also....unless you use that same excuse....what was....oh, I was too tired.

Put it this way, if I were to drive the M3 and you the IS-F, I would win. If you are in the M3 and I in the IS-F...I will still win, cause I am a winner, and you are a loser!

[Gearhead999s]

May 9th the first part of the test will be completed and then we will move on the the real contest.Drag racing is 90% car with very little driver input.I will find an appropriate track day for us to play at.

[FBTO]

Anytime sucka! I'll take you on today....even with my winter tires on.

[UNivek]

Will definitely try to be there too! Go Duncan!

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by FBTO

Anytime sucka! I'll take you on today....even with my winter tires on.

Now you are just being silly

[Jaypod]

I have a feeling this is going to be a long thread...

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by Jaypod

I have a feeling this is going to be a long thread...

So do I,
but it will be fun!

[Jaypod]

Haha! Yes it will!! Make sure he doesnt install a nitrous kit - although I am not sure anything he does can help him in the track format!

[FBTO]

It is going to be more fun taking you down! I can't wait!

Why don't you bring your POS Ducati also, and I can beat you on your bike and car in the same day.

My 954 vs your 999 AND my IS-F vs your M3!!!

You will beat me in a spaghetti eating contest.

[gthirtyfizle]

On the track it will be far from close.....
Straight line it will be close tho. And it can go either way.. Couple of things come into play.

[FBTO]

Originally Posted by gthirtyfizle

On the track it will be far from close.....

Maybe same track, same driver. The M3 has one big advantage...LSD. But besides that, it is very very close on the track. If the IS-F had an LSD....then I can make all you M3 boys my slaves. So the only question is can the driver (aka Dunky) take advantage of the LSD benefit or not.

Also, we are comparing perfect lap to perfect lap. But Dunky has to contend lots of moving himself and his legs around all the time to push in the clutch and change gears. He is old and slow....and gets tired too fast. After about half a lap, his left leg is going to get tired, he won't be able to handle the steering wheel with one hand and change gear with the other. Probably will start pushing in the clutch only half way, and end up grinding the crap out of those 6 little gears.

Now if there are some other boys on this site that know how to drive, they might give me a run for my money...and I encourage you to come out and play....but regarding Dunky and I....he is toast!!

[imballin2day]

When it comes down to it. If its the same driver and those 2 cars. The m3 will win every single competition. IS-F FTL. Sorry.

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by FBTO

Also, we are comparing perfect lap to perfect lap. But Dunky has to contend lots of moving himself and his legs around all the time to push in the clutch and change gears. He is old and slow....and gets tired too fast. After about half a lap, his left leg is going to get tired, he won't be able to handle the steering wheel with one hand and change gear with the other. Probably will start pushing in the clutch only half way, and end up grinding the crap out of those 6 little gears.

You do lead an extremly confused life do you not?Just because you have a problem with operating 3 pedals,please do not assume that I fall into that league that you seem quite happy to wallow around in

[gthirtyfizle]

Originally Posted by FBTO

Maybe same track, same driver. The M3 has one big advantage...LSD. But besides that, it is very very close on the track. If the IS-F had an LSD....then I can make all you M3 boys my slaves. So the only question is can the driver (aka Dunky) take advantage of the LSD benefit or not.

Also, we are comparing perfect lap to perfect lap. But Dunky has to contend lots of moving himself and his legs around all the time to push in the clutch and change gears. He is old and slow....and gets tired too fast. After about half a lap, his left leg is going to get tired, he won't be able to handle the steering wheel with one hand and change gear with the other. Probably will start pushing in the clutch only half way, and end up grinding the crap out of those 6 little gears.

Now if there are some other boys on this site that know how to drive, they might give me a run for my money...and I encourage you to come out and play....but regarding Dunky and I....he is toast!!

I know there was a lot of sarcasm in ur post BUT, U r deff WRONG my friend. An ISF cant even compare to the M3's handling, LSD or not. I test drove the ISF, kinda felt like a mini boat around turns lol, straight line however did feel and sound nice. A very good ISf driver and a less then average M# driver mgiht b close on the track, but all u need as a decent M3 driver to beat an excellent ISF driver.

BTW, Id rather have 6 gears then eight anytime. Isf feels confused lol, its always changing gears. But what can i say, some ppl love the reliability and mileage u get out of it

[baarii]

Originally Posted by FBTO

Thank you ....it is not the car that makes you a winner....

hmm rephrase: I put my money on the m3 and the m3 driver

btw Q: I wonder if you ever wanted to get an after market exhaust.. do you have to get 2 sets of connecting pipes 2nd set for the muffler to fakemeout quad outlets?

[gthirtyfizle]

Originally Posted by baarii

hmm rephrase: I put my money on the m3 and the m3 driver

btw Q: I wonder if you ever wanted to get an after market exhaust.. do you have to get 2 sets of connecting pipes 2nd set for the muffler to fakemeout quad outlets?

[msile]

Interesting thread.
Since I own both cars (6-speed M3), I thought that I would weigh in...

As many comparisons that have been done by magazines, I personally feel that they are two totally different cars. The ISF is my daily driver. After a hard day of work when you want a relaxing drive, the ISF gives it to you. The shifts are smooth and the car is quiet (though the shocks could use better rebound). The fit and finish and reliability is amazing. When you want to drive aggressively, simply switch to manual for neck snapping shifts and torque galore. Contrary to what someone said on this thread, there is no confusion in the 8 speed. In normal mode, you dont even know that it is shifting. Nor do the gears hunt. On the track, you are in manual and only use the first 5 gears (or first 4 on a shorter course)

The M3 is the weekend car when you want to have fun. The handling in the M3 is hands down better. Overall, it is a better driver's car I think. I have seen M3s beat IS-Fs in HPDEs AND vice versa. It will come down to the skill of the driver. The drag race will be close.

Both great cars. Any true unbiased car enthusiast can see the merits (and demerits) in each car. Good luck.

[FBTO]

Well said. Nice garage btw. U need some bikes in there.