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      12-13-2012, 09:00 PM   #23
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Takes me 5 minutes to do the update for those interested.

I have seen 200E, 220E, 231E, and 240E. I don't recall seeing 210E. So 200E is three (or four, if 210E does exist) versions behind 240E.

There are no mapping changes I see that would prevent bucking when cold. A lot of this is pilot induced (although it's not really the drivers fault).

Turning the cold start off all the way reduces this by a very large margin. With the cold start on, I can make my car buck with throttle input, or I can carefully 'manage' my throttle position which almost totally eliminates it.
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      12-13-2012, 09:40 PM   #24
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This one best describes it.
Ah, thanks for the info. I'm more concerned with (2) when you're stopped then stomp on the gas... turns into a bucking bronco instead of speeding away like intended.
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      12-13-2012, 09:51 PM   #25
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Ah, thanks for the info. I'm more concerned with (2) when you're stopped then stomp on the gas... turns into a bucking bronco instead of speeding away like intended.
Actually I think it is #2, but usually when the car is a little cold.

From a stop at wot it was fine. At like 75% throttle it would buck. At 50% throttle it was fine. I think I can still get it to buck if I let it, but the update really helps. I think when it bucks now it just does it a little. It's been raining here lately so I haven't gotten to drive real fast, although I've been trying, safely of course.
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I go to BMW of San Diego which is on Kearny Mesa Road. I'm new to BMW and have only been there 2 times. They did a great job repairing and working on my car each time. Highly recommended.
Stay away from them. They treated my 335i fine but have literally damaged my M. South County all the way.
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Takes me 5 minutes to do the update for those interested.

I have seen 200E, 220E, 231E, and 240E. I don't recall seeing 210E. So 200E is three (or four, if 210E does exist) versions behind 240E.

There are no mapping changes I see that would prevent bucking when cold. A lot of this is pilot induced (although it's not really the drivers fault).

Turning the cold start off all the way reduces this by a very large margin. With the cold start on, I can make my car buck with throttle input, or I can carefully 'manage' my throttle position which almost totally eliminates it.
Will an update erase my Dinan tune?
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240E software makes the DCT shifts snap more, especially in M mode. Nice touch
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      12-14-2012, 10:40 AM   #29
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Actually I think it is #2, but usually when the car is a little cold.

From a stop at wot it was fine. At like 75% throttle it would buck. At 50% throttle it was fine. I think I can still get it to buck if I let it, but the update really helps. I think when it bucks now it just does it a little. It's been raining here lately so I haven't gotten to drive real fast, although I've been trying, safely of course.
Interesting. I'm due for an oil change in a week or two. Will ask them if they can update the software while the car is in there.
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I asked 2 different dealers to perform updates to all of my systems citing the actual conditions for the updates to no avail. I am having coding done and updated every module in my e92 at that time. F*CK BMW SD.I have found them on other issues in the past on my old e46 as well. Ridiculous. AND they put significant miles each time it's there >20.

So is 240E still the latest then? If there is a new one, I may as well flash it now.

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Will an update erase my Dinan tune?
Yes it will, but that might be a good thing

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781215

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=780338
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240E software makes the DCT shifts snap more, especially in M mode. Nice touch
240E is for DME only, it does not program DCT.

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Will an update erase my Dinan tune?
Yes, any aftermarket flash or OEM update that specifically targets the DME will wipe out existing programming.

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I asked 2 different dealers to perform updates to all of my systems citing the actual conditions for the updates to no avail. I am having coding done and updated every module in my e92 at that time. F*CK BMW SD.I have found them on other issues in the past on my old e46 as well. Ridiculous. AND they put significant miles each time it's there >20.

So is 240E still the latest then? If there is a new one, I may as well flash it now.
If you are in Anaheim anytime soon, we can update your DME as well as any other module within your M3 you wish, as well as custom coding/profiling.
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Dealer upgraded software to latest version. Originally was going to charge me an hour of labor since it was not really a "necessary" service but was willing to do it.

Since I had the car in for an EDC module malfunction, dealer flashed new software at no cost since they had to code in the new EDC module anyway. Module service was covered under warranty.

New software really smoothed out the engine and eliminated some partial throttle hesitation/missing experienced at lower than optimal gear speeds.

That coupled with transmission and diff fluid service makes the car feel buttery smooth.
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Dealer upgraded software to latest version. Originally was going to charge me an hour of labor since it was not really a "necessary" service but was willing to do it.

Since I had the car in for an EDC module malfunction, dealer flashed new software at no cost since they had to code in the new EDC module anyway. Module service was covered under warranty.

New software really smoothed out the engine and eliminated some partial throttle hesitation/missing experienced at lower than optimal gear speeds.

That coupled with transmission and diff fluid service makes the car feel buttery smooth.
i also had the new software installed and these fluids changed recently,and had the same positive experience.
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Any dealers in OC willing to do this for $150? Crevier quoted me 2 hours of labor at over ~$150 /hr.
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