Proof of OE/Gintani dyno manipulation

J08M3 · 04-06-2011, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powertrip

On another note, I no longer have a car that can benefit from Gintani or OE's services, but that didn't stop Alex from ordering lunch for me, or stop Raz from helping me package that pain in the ass of an exhaust. Call me a fanboy, or Gintani puppet, but to me that is excellent service.

Cheers

But that's not the issue. no one questions there customer service. the thread's about a suspicious looking dyno graph. Like I said I'm sure their tune does make power, but I too wonder why their graph looks so suspect, and if they are putting out fake graphs, then why? and if not, then that is impressive.

duk · 04-06-2011, 08:53 PM

Hey i want a free lunch too! I am sure they are cool guys but thats not in question here. There are questions around this tune and its dyno so let's stick to the topic and have an objective and fair test both sides can agree to!

powertrip · 04-06-2011, 09:16 PM

Come on guys, read my first paragraph for Christ' sake

. I am on topic stating why I think the thread is stagnant at this point. My last paragraph was just an observation of their business practices. Like I said, I don't have a horse in this race any more. I'm sure the dyno shootout will answer the questions being asked.

m33 · 04-06-2011, 09:34 PM

idstill like to know what right or influence Gintani has to prevent the op from doing the test. Powerchip offered to buy the guy an easy flash so they wouldn't need to be there. This is insane!

BPMSport · 04-07-2011, 12:37 AM

I will be calling the OP tomorrow to discuss further...

I had a bit of a disaster with my Jaguar the last couple days... Convertable hydraulic lines popped in the headliner and both the car and my passengers were covered in power steering fluid/Pentosin. What a disaster...

Will update thread as time permits. In the process of removing the entire interior and replacing the hydraulic lines and fluid.

Thank you everyone for your interest. We are certainly going to get to the bottom of this.

Kyoshi71 · 04-07-2011, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by powertrip

I was at Gintani today having Raz help me package my MXP exhaust. These guys are seriously up to their elbows in paying jobs right now. They're actually working on pushing two big projects out in the next couple days.

I suspect that Jeremy will be willing to participate once MFest is finished.

On another note, I no longer have a car that can benefit from Gintani or OE's services, but that didn't stop Alex from ordering lunch for me, or stop Raz from helping me package that pain in the ass of an exhaust. Call me a fanboy, or Gintani puppet, but to me that is excellent service.

Cheers

Wow, what other tricks can you do?

m33 · 04-07-2011, 07:40 AM

Eugene-TAIWAN · 04-07-2011, 08:12 AM

this thread is getting boring

m33 · 04-07-2011, 10:32 AM

This thread has more rebuttals/excuses than a stock broker .

biglare · 04-07-2011, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m33

This thread has more rebuttals/excuses than a stock broker .

rbk1115 · 04-07-2011, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m33

This thread has more rebuttals/excuses than a stock broker .

+1

HAHAHA!!!

chungdae · 04-07-2011, 11:25 AM

Still waiting for REAL results.

J08M3 · 04-07-2011, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chungdae

Still waiting for REAL results.

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you

duk · 04-07-2011, 12:50 PM

I am sure we will see results after M-Fest (hopefully)!

SHADY1 · 04-07-2011, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m33

This thread has more rebuttals/excuses than a stock broker .

WoW......

powertrip · 04-07-2011, 01:44 PM

Pretty pathetic Kyoshi

. Go get laid, or something.

xchosun1x · 04-07-2011, 02:58 PM

jeremy at oe tuning did post a reply stating he has no problem with doing the testing. However, M fest is really bogging them down, as told by Alex. In my opinion, testing should take place after M fest.

m33 · 04-07-2011, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powertrip

Pretty pathetic Kyoshi

. Go get laid, or something.

That's what I'm talking about , I wanna get laid too , powertrip lay out the yellow brick road to the wizard of oz so he can grant our wishes , who knows maybe he'll toss in a wish/answer to this thread ...

BPMSport · 04-07-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by xchosun1x

jeremy at oe tuning did post a reply stating he has no problem with doing the testing. However, M fest is really bogging them down, as told by Alex. In my opinion, testing should take place after M fest.

James, as discussed earlier in the week, Friday seemed to be good for everyone.

We are planning on Tomorrow 2PM @ Church automotive - a third party dyno with spark logging ability.

Pencilgeek will be present as well to verify results.

James: Called you a left a VM - please let me know if you can make it tomorrow.

I think everyone is eager to put this situation to bed. I certainly do not want to deal with it anymore - so the sooner it's done the better. It doesn't get any brighter than exactly 24.014 hours from now.

Thank you,
Mike B

duk · 04-07-2011, 03:50 PM

I guess what most of us are/were waiting is some type of an official professional response akin to what PC has done. Both sides have some backing and clearing up to do as both companies' reps are being questioned.

Thanks to PC for being very professional throughout this ordeal.

alpine335i · 04-07-2011, 03:53 PM

Mike, will OE be present too or are you just testing your tune on the OP's car?

powertrip · 04-07-2011, 03:53 PM

Sean Church is an excellent choice for an objective third party. He is surely one the most honest guys that I have dealt with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@Powerchip

James, as discussed earlier in the week, Friday seemed to be good for everyone.

We are planning on Tomorrow 2PM @ Church automotive - a third party dyno with spark logging ability.

Pencilgeek will be present as well to verify results.

James: Called you a left a VM - please let me know if you can make it tomorrow.

I think everyone is eager to put this situation to bed. I certainly do not want to deal with it anymore - so the sooner it's done the better. It doesn't get any brighter than exactly 24.014 hours from now.

Thank you,
Mike B

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powertrip Scared money don't make money. 67 Rep 1,449 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (3) Garage List 2009 E92 M3 [0.00]	Come on guys, read my first paragraph for Christ' sake . I am on topic stating why I think the thread is stagnant at this point. My last paragraph was just an observation of their business practices. Like I said, I don't have a horse in this race any more. I'm sure the dyno shootout will answer the questions being asked. __________________ 2009 E92 M3/DCT/Alpine White/Fox Red/Carbon Leather OE Tuned 402 whp & 303 wtq/Gintani X-pipe/MXP Axle Back/Rogue Pulley/AFE Stage 2/Cosmetics By IND & EAS HUGE THANKS: Gintani, OE Tuning, and EAS Last edited by powertrip; 04-06-2011 at 11:15 PM..
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m33 Banned 114 Rep 2,682 Posts Drives: E92 VT650 MCB Individual Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CT iTrader: (5)	idstill like to know what right or influence Gintani has to prevent the op from doing the test. Powerchip offered to buy the guy an easy flash so they wouldn't need to be there. This is insane!
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powertrip Scared money don't make money. 67 Rep 1,449 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (3) Garage List 2009 E92 M3 [0.00]	Pretty pathetic Kyoshi . Go get laid, or something. __________________ 2009 E92 M3/DCT/Alpine White/Fox Red/Carbon Leather OE Tuned 402 whp & 303 wtq/Gintani X-pipe/MXP Axle Back/Rogue Pulley/AFE Stage 2/Cosmetics By IND & EAS HUGE THANKS: Gintani, OE Tuning, and EAS
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xchosun1x Track Duty 266 Rep 2,467 Posts Drives: Track build 08 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (14)	jeremy at oe tuning did post a reply stating he has no problem with doing the testing. However, M fest is really bogging them down, as told by Alex. In my opinion, testing should take place after M fest.
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04-07-2011, 03:50 PM	#284
duk ///M 158 Rep 3,195 Posts Drives: 2011 AW/FR 6MT E92 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (0)	I guess what most of us are/were waiting is some type of an official professional response akin to what PC has done. Both sides have some backing and clearing up to do as both companies' reps are being questioned. Thanks to PC for being very professional throughout this ordeal. __________________ 2011.5 AW/FR E92 M3 6MT
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