Secondary Cat / Resonator Delete

sylonien · 01-12-2013, 10:29 AM

Yo all.

Been looking to get the secondary cat / resonator deleted but don't want to spend £800-900 for a xpipe.

I rang around to get a custom made and they ranged £135 - £260. Sounds good and worth a try.

Question is, I rang MIJ Performance and the dude mentioned that there is a sensor on the second cat and it may throw up a sensor error.

That's the only place that mentioned that it might have a issue, but he said he had an M3 himself before.

Is that true?

1MOREMOD · 01-12-2013, 10:31 AM

02 sensors are before and after the primary cats so should be okay with just secondary removed but wont gain power this way either.

sylonien · 01-12-2013, 10:32 AM

It's okay, I'm not expecting power gain. I just want a bit more noise.

STi_traitor · 01-12-2013, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chriszeh

02 sensors are before and after the primary cats so should be okay with just secondary removed but wont gain power this way either.

+1

Gutting out the secondaries and doing a OEM Exhaust Mod should do the trick for you. Here is a DIY (costs: free 90 free) for the secondaries, GL!

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=457202

sylonien · 01-12-2013, 10:58 AM

I haven't got the tools or skills to do DIY

I might go ahead with custom so I can keep the OEM one to put back one day or in case I don't like the sound. Don't want it too too raspy.

1MOREMOD · 01-12-2013, 12:46 PM

yeah i would keep the OEM as well. i have to pass emissions every 2 years so need to return my stock for the test which is coming up.

sylonien · 01-12-2013, 04:47 PM

Eek. Will it fail emission test with secondary cat delete?

Thought it was fine?

1MOREMOD · 01-12-2013, 04:50 PM

no you should pass with secondaries removed. mine is an obvious fail because when they connect to the obd2 port it will show them that my sensors have been messed with to not send a cel.

sylonien · 01-12-2013, 04:54 PM

Is there a sensor on secondary cat? Or did you mess with primary cat?

1MOREMOD · 01-12-2013, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sylonien

Is there a sensor on secondary cat? Or did you mess with primary cat?

there is no sensor on the secondary cat. i have no primary cats. so yes i messed with them.

sylonien · 01-12-2013, 05:13 PM

I see.

Also heard that secondary cat delete smells alot? Trolling through the net at the moment to find more about.

1MOREMOD · 01-12-2013, 05:40 PM

no smell is from going full catless. removing both sets.

sylonien · 01-26-2013, 05:02 PM

Can report myself that secondary cat delete doesn't smell at all.

But a tad raspy... maybe I should of kept the resonator in.

01-12-2013, 10:29 AM	#1
sylonien Major 114 Rep 1,326 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Secondary Cat / Resonator Delete Yo all. Been looking to get the secondary cat / resonator deleted but don't want to spend £800-900 for a xpipe. I rang around to get a custom made and they ranged £135 - £260. Sounds good and worth a try. Question is, I rang MIJ Performance and the dude mentioned that there is a sensor on the second cat and it may throw up a sensor error. That's the only place that mentioned that it might have a issue, but he said he had an M3 himself before. Is that true?
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01-12-2013, 10:31 AM	#2
1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	02 sensors are before and after the primary cats so should be okay with just secondary removed but wont gain power this way either. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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01-12-2013, 10:32 AM	#3
sylonien Major 114 Rep 1,326 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	It's okay, I'm not expecting power gain. I just want a bit more noise.
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01-12-2013, 10:58 AM	#5
sylonien Major 114 Rep 1,326 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I haven't got the tools or skills to do DIY I might go ahead with custom so I can keep the OEM one to put back one day or in case I don't like the sound. Don't want it too too raspy.
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01-12-2013, 12:46 PM	#6
1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	yeah i would keep the OEM as well. i have to pass emissions every 2 years so need to return my stock for the test which is coming up. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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01-12-2013, 04:47 PM	#7
sylonien Major 114 Rep 1,326 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Eek. Will it fail emission test with secondary cat delete? Thought it was fine?
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01-12-2013, 04:50 PM	#8
1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	no you should pass with secondaries removed. mine is an obvious fail because when they connect to the obd2 port it will show them that my sensors have been messed with to not send a cel. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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01-12-2013, 04:54 PM	#9
sylonien Major 114 Rep 1,326 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Is there a sensor on secondary cat? Or did you mess with primary cat?
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01-12-2013, 05:13 PM	#11
sylonien Major 114 Rep 1,326 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I see. Also heard that secondary cat delete smells alot? Trolling through the net at the moment to find more about.
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01-12-2013, 05:40 PM	#12
1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	no smell is from going full catless. removing both sets. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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01-26-2013, 05:02 PM	#13
sylonien Major 114 Rep 1,326 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Can report myself that secondary cat delete doesn't smell at all. But a tad raspy... maybe I should of kept the resonator in. Last edited by sylonien; 01-26-2013 at 06:42 PM..
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