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Who knows! Maybe it is Optimized because it doesn't say you can adjust the launch rpm like with BMW software. Is it Optimized for Euro software as well? I have dealt with both ESS and Evolve, both are awesome companies with a lot of passion with there products. There customer service for both are bar none. I am still reviewing my Evolve tune on my car but thus far its miles ahead of the rest. In the end your modding for yourself not anyone else. If your happy than nothing more should matter.
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Our SMG software is a modified version of factory Euro spec. Our S 4/5 /6 modes are more agressive than stock Euro spec. If you have any other questions feel free to PM or email me. If your objective is to create drama and attract attention to yourself I most likely wont respond |
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So I'm not crazy? At first I thought it was just savvy users posted information, and I was entertained, and then I realized this isn't public information, if it were, they wouldn't have to ask.. so it just seemed really, really odd
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04-02-2012, 10:12 PM | #183 | |
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I am not trying to attract attention to myself or create drama for you. I simply had a question for you and I thank you for finally responding to it. Many of the other questions remain unanswered. Good luck and I hope next time you think twice before attacking people, especially people such as Sal and myself that are quiet comfortable, familiar, and proficient with the MSS60 engine management system. Just keep in mind that your actions prompted the type of response that you received.
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Seems to me like Mike, Sal and Tom come on here and answer the questions while ESS and their followers just wanna throw mud.
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Gets what exactly? In case you haven't noticed he has hardly demonstrated much objectivity, nearly every post is about how Evolve Rocks and ESS is just a vendor that attacks, lol. The signature analogy is silly, if anything that would apply to the ESS detractors more so. I'm not saying Evolve doesn't rock, cleary they have some happy customers as do you, but where did ESS bash you in this thread, now that you sell Evolve you feel the need to tag team with Mike and take on Roman? There's a a few questions I could ask you too, but I'd probably do so in a more mature, civil enviroment not a thread filled with Drama.
What are your thoughts on this? Mike is accusing Roman of being misleading, or maybe a liar, when it comes to the rear 02's and their function, one could easily apply that to you as well, because you said the exact same thing Roman did in this thread. Seems like you and Roman are on the same page when it comes to the rear 02's function and the legality of tampering with emissions, except Mike is a little bit subjective with who he claims is being misleading?
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What do you gain by answering the questions posed to a company you don't work for? And as for the evolve rocks comments, yes they do, as many will agree and I think none will argue against, but that's a bit hypocritical as you yourself are in every ess thread with the same complimentary comments, are you not? So why is it an issue that I do? Kind of silly right.. you can do it but I can't? Last edited by Verify; 04-02-2012 at 10:50 PM.. |
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* Why do you do a 10-minute cool-down on your dyno before you make your final power run? * Why do you post dyno results in STD instead of the more common SAE? * Why are you calling your record setting (and now record broken) 60-130 runs a VF620 with standard boost when Nick @ VF says it's a VF700 with increased boost? * Why did you post the 23whp lower baseline on Orange Fever's car when that wasn't the real baseline for the car before supercharging? Quote:
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This new tactic you are now using is silly, "you work for them" no I don't work for them at all. Quote:
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So for someone to demand answers and keeps attacking and asking the same questions over and over,that person should start giving some answers at this point. What do you think ? does that make sense to you ? |
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I never claimed you work for them, exactly the opposite. I asked what you gain by posting for a company, and saying in a factual manner that you know what they changed, when you don't, unless you do know, inside information, or you were given what to say. I was just curious though. It's like watching WWE in here with the amount tagging in/out that's goin on though. Once again, I commend Evolve for only chiming in with factual information, backed up by documented data |
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ESS was very smart in not getting directly involved......in the past. The silver lining in this thread? People are aware of it and it's going to be a thing of the past as more and more non-ESS kits keep hitting the streets. This thread has probably cost more sales than gained. I'm simply tired of the childish games seen in the past. Let the kits (and tunes) promote themselves on their own merit/accomplishments, the internet-bullying, rumor-mill and bulls**t needs to stop now. Business does not have result in dirty business. C'mon Drew, I know you're better than this, please don't get sucked into the drama. Quote:
1. This is in reference to MFest BBQ last year (in which neither IMG or PencilGeek were present), cool-downs were to keep numbers consistent, in oil temps/AIT. This is why we had a BT tool connected to select vehicles for monitoring, which you have misinterpreted (and passed around) as "stealing an ESS tune", adding to the overflowing rumor mill. Its not true, would not risk our reputation doing so, nor do I think anyone ballsy enough to do it in front of 60 people. I don't even mind that a VT1-535 kit made 550whp that night, while 3 other VT1-535 cars made 475whp. To each their own and congrats to the owners. 2. We have recently started posting in both STD and SAE and will continue to do so in the future. Not a problem. 3. Not sure where you got this one. There is no such thing as a VF700, unless you are misinterpreting the Smoking Tire interview. All dynos have been posted in the past and I've never said a bad word about the record being beaten. However, the record still stands in the US. I've never shoved it in anyone's face or promoted it tirelessly. Actually, we barely even talked about it after it was all said and done. 4. Both numbers are in there on Orange Fever's M3, it's plain to everyone to see. If I was intentionally misleading people - I'd not have even mentioned the DME update in the first place. Extra: We have zero interest in participating in your dyno database. Please stop asking for other forum member's runfiles. You'll never find a bad comment about ESS from me. I've never made one. FYI: It's painfully obvious when you are posting by proxy for PencilGeek.
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Vehicle: 2011 BMW M3 Coupe (eas Project M3) Transmission: DCT Exhaust: Akrapovic Evolution, 100cpsi cats Fuel: 100 Octane There's only 1 VF Engineering kit on the market at this time, which is the VF620. A non-intercooled (low boost) kit will be released shortly.
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I do help PG with the Dyno Database to help every member getting the info they need and it's all in one place and well organized. I also talk to PG all the time and learned a lot from him but that doesn't mean that i proxy post for him as you mentioned to the Mod. Now it's pretty obvious that it was you that reported me . No sweat on my end ! |
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Finally cleared that up. Though some will ask for more proof. I guess we will have to take your and ESS's word on that.
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