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06-01-2016, 07:08 PM | #89 |
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If I was ESS, I'd have the new owner sign a waiver saying he/she understand the risks and sell the pulley. Notarized, Docusign, DNA codes, whatever to cover them.
Customer does waiver, pays money, gets product, and everyone is happy. Would that be bad business?
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In CA, courts do not take kindly to SLAPPs, so would warn the company that threatening legal action is a potentially high risk and costly endeavor.
http://www.casp.net Moreover, defamation only occurs if you're not telling the truth. |
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I see why they wouldn't want to sell it.. They're protecting you and themselves ... Why don't you just upgrade your kit ? Sounds like it's upgradable .. Best of luck ! |
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New parts are being sourced. I run a three 1/2 mile events each year. All are above 3,000 feet - and the parts will only be used here. I have a high performance BMW shop in the area with a Dynojet to make sure the car is optimal and remains within tolerances. My occupation is completely unrelated to cars, coding, or software. I am still not sure why it was brought into the original conversation - but it was. |
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06-01-2016, 08:43 PM | #94 |
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If this was a replacement part, I would understand. But it's actually a part from a separate kit that they do not support, they are not obligated at all to sell you anything, especially when it potentially makes them liable, or at the very least at risk for some negative press.
"ESS supercharger explodes and kills driver and family". You can bet no one will be talking about non-standard pulleys. So I kind of get both sides. It's not nice to hear a different story each time, but at the same time they didn't have to put up with you near the amount of time that they did. |
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I have to say, the more I read this thread, the more I feel as though we are not getting the whole story.
OP: You were very vague in your opening post, but I think you wanted us to know who this was. Reason? You stated things like "many on this forum know I own a E9x M3 with a particular S/C kit" and then went on to name almost every single major SC manufacturer that makes a kit for the E9x and stated it wasn't any of those. If you truly wanted to keep it a secret you wouldn't have given out so many details. I figured it out in a second by logical deduction and posted who it was in the 2nd post. Wasn't a stretch. Also, I'm not sure what you meant by the below: Quote:
You seem like a cool dude, and I have no issues with you whatsoever. I don't doubt you feel disrespected, but I'm going to go ahead and say it, your story is full of holes. You came on here and intentionally defamed ESS Tuning with claims that you still have not been able to back up with any written or recorded proof, though you've stated numerous times you have both. Fact remains, ESS Tuning came in here, and in one post shed more light on the real story than you've done in all of your banter. They said what needed to be said, and I commend them for choosing to stay out of it beyond what they already posted. Bottom line, ESS Tuning refused selling you a part which is typically not for sale by itself, and which the sale of would have gone against what all of their R&D told them is acceptable for the kits they produce. This is the only fact that has been agreed on by both parties at this time. They did this to protect not only themselves, but you and your car from potential engine damage. If you ask me, they did you favor. Everything else that you claim is hearsay and does nothing for anyone, except get people all riled up (or in my case, provide some good entertainment). One thing is for sure, I can guarantee whatever you attempted to accomplish in this thread won't hurt their sales, or their reputation, and I am inclined to side with ESS at this point, as I just don't see half of what you claim they said being likely. Do I feel they were irritated with you? If what they claim about you calling and emailing 30 times (likely an exaggeration on their part, but still enough to irk them) is true then I can't blame them for getting a little stern with you in the end, but I have my doubts it went down exactly as you recall. I honestly thing a mod should just close this thread. It's not going anywhere, and serves no purpose. Any issues OP has with ESS Tuning and vice versa they should work out in private. |
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06-02-2016, 04:12 AM | #96 |
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so they wouldn't sell you a part but then offered that same part in exchange to keep you hush? Simple way to get everyone on your side is to prove thats what they offered.
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Regardless ESS have twisted the truth anyway claiming he rang 30 times in a day, if thats true can they please provide records to prove this? |
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06-02-2016, 04:33 AM | #99 |
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The individual has nothing to gain by slating ESS, they have everything to loose if they cant make his story out to be BS.. So we wait and see what the outcome is.
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06-02-2016, 05:36 AM | #100 |
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I disagree with the "they have everything to lose" statement. what exactly do they have to lose? one customer plus however many followers he manages to amass? They are a huge company with huge assets and a huge customer base. I'm sure OP isn't hurting them any. And why would they feel the need to prove OP called them 30 times in a day? Come on man..I'm sure they have better things to do with their time. They said what they needed to say and moved on, just like everyone else should do.
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06-02-2016, 05:41 AM | #101 |
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I was looking at getting a supercharger, and now having second thoughts about going to ESS, so if theres 10 people like me thats 80k there potentiolly loosing out on.. plus how many other people search for ESS and come across this thread. Everything was an exaggeration but not gaining customers is obviously not good for business.
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