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thing is guys was there ever a negative review of the E46 ///M3. The way i recall it was hands done the best in its class no doubt .. thats why i bought one ... the E92 M3 just isn't the same, value for money right now, the 335i looks a better option, have to agree ... BTW i have owned a good few ///M model BMWs ... so yes after having the 335i you wonder sh1t if the 335i is so awesome wonder how the E92 ///M3 will be ... i wanted to read every review saying how awesome this car is and is the king ... and it ain't ... disappointed to say the least
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I too flirted with the z06. Go sit in one and you'll be disappointed. Plus you have to expect it will have the Vette rattle in a few years and things start to deteriorate and fall apart. The glue comes undone and the dash falls to the floor. That kind of thing. Plus, these cars can't withstand beat up roads whereas a BMW can. |
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If I am not mistaken when the E46 M3 came out the price difference between a comparably equipped 330i and M3 was about $10K, and no one thought twice about which one they would get as a performance car. There was a huge performance difference in straight line speed and in the corners.
Now, if the base E92 costs over $60K like most mags are predicting, there will be a $20K price difference between the 335i and the M3. Meanwhile the 335i (stock) is running 13.4 @ 105 in the 1/4 mile and the M3 is running 12.9 at 111. This is not a huge difference when you take the $20K price gap into account. Then factor in the easier tunability of the turbo six that will evaporate the performance difference (and possibly give the edge to the 335i) and also factor in the availability of a $2K LSD and suddenly that $20K price gap seems huge. If it weren't for the existence of the 335i I would be a lot more excited about the new M3. Also, priced in the mid $60ks the M3 runs into some tough competition (Cayman S, Z06, Skyline GTR) that will get tougher as time marches on.
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Just finished getting in to "it", i.e. this with him over at the other board. IF the Vishnu fellow can get over 400 hp and tq from the 335i and you slap a LSD and coilovers on the 335i it is going to be pretty damn fast. I keep hearing he will be getting that but I have not seen it yet. Of course you'll have to add a $6k BBK for any serious track work. With these mods in many performance contests this heavily modded car will give the M3 a serious run. However, once you consider the whole package (high speed stability, steering feel, handling, fun factor, reliability, hassle, etc., etc.) is will still be no contest. |
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From a non M-loving whorshipper fanperson... This type of thread is annoying because.... 1. You think this is the 1st one to compare the 2 cars? This must be the 100th "comparison" already. 2. Damn car isnt even out to the public yet. Is it too much to ask if we can test it out and decide for ourselfs, instead of taking some mag or online reviewers word for it? 3. Not everyone buys a car for 1/4mi, 0-62 or time around the ring etc.. etc.. 4. The 335 and M3 share what? A couple of doors and trunk lid? Lot more than a chip, exhaust and some tires... 5. Sister to #2 Its "absurd" to go magazine racing or make a choice by a magazines (review) word ALONE. Bottom line for me is....Dont care if other cars faster etc.. Or this guy said this and that guy said that. So unless this car is released to the general public and proper roadtests/reviews are done and most importantly until my very own butt touches the seat, everythings just speculation. Btw I wonder how many of these "New" 1-3 posts members/critics are just offspring of previous critics? Last edited by Tobizach; 07-22-2007 at 04:28 AM.. |
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Vette rattles pretty much disappeared with the advent of the C5 back in '97, although the C4 had them in abundance with its flexible flyer chassis. The C6 is an extremely rigid ride, however. Nothing has been falling off Vettes for at least ten years, so turn your wayback machine to "current day", and take a C6 for a drive. "Plus, these cars can't withstand beat up roads whereas a BMW can." Now you're onto something - sorta. Vettes are OK on less than perfect back roads, but they don't engender confidence in the driver. You *can* really hammer along, but intuitively, you're going to be backing off. On track, where you can repetitively deal with bumps until you're going flat out, Vettes can destroy anything made by BMW. But tracks are where we spend one or two percent of our driving time, and if you find joy in bombing and strafing back roads into oblivion, then a BMW is what you want for that work. Because of the fact that they generally provide the best ride/handling compromise across the board, BMWs make the absolute best back road bandits. If you're in a Z06 or Z51 Vette on a less than perfect back road, behind even an E46 M3 who's at all serious, you're not going to be able to stay with the bimmer unless you are completely out of your mind. On track, you'll kick his ass, but on those roads, he *owns* you. We can all bitch about how BMWs are getting too big and heavy to be driving fun (God knows I do), but your bimmer will simply slice, dice and have those back roads for breakfast - even the E9X cars. It may be magic. Bruce |
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Also totally agree with the other that this topic is a extremely well beaten DEAD HORSE. Also this particular foray is a nice thread hi-jack as well... |
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Carrera S stock- runs a 12.6 1/4 mile @112mph. Heres a thread where a 335i owner with just procede tune beats a stock carrera S on 2 different rolls. Wait a minute, if the 335i is beating a carrera S, and the carrera S is getting a faster quarter mile then the new e92 M3, then doesnt this 335i with one mod already beat the M3 in a straight line? |
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Hi revah, this is sarcasm. Have we met?
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I wanted to see where on the Vishnu site you can get 400+ hp at the crank, what this system consists of and how much it costs. |
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http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ht=xede+update The Dyno reads 361 rwhp and 402 rwtorque, do the math. Thats ONE tune, ONE Xede, and like i said about 400+ HP. Dont give me the driver issue bullshit.And dont play stupid, you and I both know its not a driver issue, you'd have to be retarded to gravely influence the outcome of a race, especially on a roll. Ill take my chances and say both drivers know where their clutches are, and know how to shift gears. Anecdotal- (def) Pertaining to the relationship of figures or to the arrangement of elements in a scene so as to emphasize the story content of a subject. Example Sentence: "There are anecdotal reports of children poisoned by hot dogs roasted over a fire of the oleander stems" |
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