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07-16-2007, 10:29 AM | #155 |
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What is faster in a straight line drag race? RS4 is quoted as 0 - 60 mph in 4.5 secs and 0 - 100 mph in 10.5 seconds. I can't help but think the E92 M3 could have done with an extra 20 bhp... especially with the new Merc C63 AMG coming too, not to mention the RS5!
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07-16-2007, 11:18 AM | #157 |
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Sprint off from the lights on a dry day the M3 will win
Sprint off from the lights on a wet day the RS4 will win Live in Las Vegas - buy an M3 Live in the UK buy an RS4...... ...or for us in the UK we could move to Vegas, buy and M3 and with the money we'd saved we could have a hell of a time out there |
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07-16-2007, 11:20 AM | #158 |
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This is great! Finally, someone willing to put his car where his mouth is! I am really hoping Epacy will accept the challenge--like a true nobleman--and we will settle this damn RS4 vs. M3 rhetoric that has taken over this forum in a conclusive manner once and for all. My money will be on the M3 (driven by Epacy of course), but I don't know if Epacy has decided to spend his money on an M3 just yet. Oh, wait, this can't actually happen since the M3 is not even out yet, and we don't even know how it will perform exactly, hence the pointlessness of all this rhetoric...
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Okay, this is great, too. Whatever you say. You have the last word: RS4 indeed beats the new M3. Can we get back to some relevant discussion about the M3 on this board now?
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07-16-2007, 01:58 PM | #164 |
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Unless you drive your car on the track most of the time, who cares what car beat the other. Both are great cars for the way most people drive everyday. Chill out! My only concern is that these cars are getting a little too pricey. For another $10K I might consider upgrading to the next level.
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come back when you get some actual facts to back your ridiculous, opinion based claims. no, actually just don't come back at all. you've contributed nothing of value to this forum and i doubt you ever will.
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i have a feeling you've never been to a track before. unlike you, i actually use my car for what it was made for. so yes, i am interested in the real performance numbers this car produces. i could see you as the type who would go out and buy a GT3 and never have it see the track. what a waste of a car. Quote:
btw, you know that 75kg is around 165lbs right? that seems like a pretty significant difference in weight to me. hmm, ok. that makes a ton of sense.
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Unfortunatly, the BMW M3 isn't released yet and won't be for some while. So the "facts" are not solid because BMW can change a few things before the production runs of the car. Secondly, the 2 common "themes" that different reviewers have brought up were the brake fade with excessive tracking and the lack of feedback through the steering wheel and on-center driving. Everything else i have read in the 3-4 detailed reviews suggest the car is beyond remarkable. The brake fade issue, may or may not be true and might be more about how BMW implamented their new brake technology and might need re-programming for the more agressive M3. And... the numb steering wheel, which can be solely because the reviewers were not driving the car in Sport mode, which increased the steering ratio and responsivness. Either way, BMW can tweak these 2 things pretty easily with absolutly no cost. I've read every one of your post and find you just babbling and regurgitating nothing but your opinion. To participate in a debate, you have to bring something worthwhile to argue about. You don't...!! -Garrett |
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Could have fooled me after all that you posted since you made that comment.
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Secondly, they didn't say the transmission was bad, but the gearbox didn't feel right. It seems BMW has tried to soften up the M3 a bit and purest aren't letting BMW forget what made the M iconic and are silently demanding that BMW take notice. These things your discussing are nuances "dialed in" while doing their own in house testing. Now that a good portion of the Press has had a chance, perhaps BMW will re-dial their software & refine the BMW a tad more towards a harsher ride. -Garrett |
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for the record, i'd be very disappointed if the rs4 with its awd couldn't pull off similar 0-60 times. awd is a huge advantage for 0-60 tests. go look at the other figures i mentioned earlier, like 0-200km/h, braking 100-0km/h, etc. and see which car comes out on top. yeah, you're right...the transmission from the e46 M3 definitely held it back but most of all, the transmission and steering 'problems' are all opinions. how can you measure the feel of a transmission/steering? every person will have a different response to it, some better/worse than others. the numbers don't lie and once again you fail to realize that.
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Dude, how deep of a hole do you want to dig yourself here exactly before letting go? Don't you see that you've pretty much alienated just about everyone around? Or, are you some kind of automated reply algorithm?
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That was just a recommendation and you call it stupid. You're so thankless... Best regards, south |
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