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Let me guess, this comes from someone who sells aftermarket suspensions...
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hehe wow, ok, well I will try to confirm what he said.
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Honestly, I don't think the dampers and springs are not the weak point. The only upgrade that this car really could use is front camber plates.
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Here's my car at full tilt with stock suspension on PS2's. Doesn't seem so bad to me. I got coilovers not because the stock suspension sucks but because I felt like the modest improvement in performance, along with a better looks (dropped 1"), along with better tire wear, was worth it.
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I know the difference between the track and street driving. But trust me, i can test the car on the street and tell if m3 has body roll or has understeer issues |
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I had very bad wear on the front on the outsides of PS2's as well with stock camber, at multiple tracks. Although I will say that I think the -2.0 rear I'm running now may be just a tad much, it seems to wear insides too quick. Front is now -2.7, we will see how that goes as far as street/track use.
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Hoosiers/Continentals Grand Am Cups require a lot more camber to wear properly.Nt05's,Ra1's require a lot less camber for sure. Last edited by Gearhead999s; 08-02-2012 at 01:45 PM.. |
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I tend to really wear the outside edges of my front Nitto NT01s. I usually wear more the inside of the tires at the rear so it sort of balances out (Power-on oversteer ) . However last week at CMP, I corded the outside of one rear tire with plenty of meat left on it . It seems CMP is pretty abrasive, as quite a few in my group of buddies corded tires on that weekend. I just got my car aligned yesterday and dialed up the front camber to -2.8. I'll test it out this weekend at LCMT . Last edited by CanAutM3; 08-02-2012 at 01:50 PM.. |
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As promised here are the pics of my tires after about 3 hours of use at WGI.
Right side RF to the left RR to the right of the pic Left side LF right side LR left side These tires have about 10 days on them and were flipped on the rims after 6 days.I expect another 4-6 days use are left on these tires.Remember I run 100% factory camber settings. Prerequisite shot with my dog Dakota |
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The bump stops are what ultimately limits roll on the stock suspension. It takes approx 500lb springs up front to keep our cars off of the bump stops.
Roll isn't necessarily a bad thing either. As gearhead mentioned, more compliant setups can generate more grip than overly stiff setups. I didn't have any complaints of roll when my car was stock. Of course my ast's are better but they still produce enough roll on hoosiers to generate stupid amounts of grip and control. |
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this is turning into a fun thread!
so after this weekend, i obviously agree my driving needs work - its humbling to be passed by a (quite modded) e30 m3, but also interesting to see where i cant keep up due to roll. i do agree getting tossed around plays a big part in perception. my knees are bruised from bracing myself! also, my tires were beat to crap, 2 weekends out of them. so, in addition to 'roll', less than ideal camber plays into this, i believe. i am thinking camber plates are really needed. doubt they will help much with roll, but should get the car a bit more settled. ill get some pics from tracktimephotos up, but here is a quick teaser vid. |
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I have considered changing seats and installing a roll bar to have a five point system, but I do not want to change the car due to resell soon. vz
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