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I know this is a BMW site but some of the comments are not quite in my reasoning but I guess thats why they have apples, oranges and bananas etc.. I have been a AMG man myself but got tired of how crappy MB service has been here so I decided to give BMW a try. I just this week picked up a lease turn in 2008-M3-cabrio-6sp-Space Gray with only 24k on the clock. With it being driven by a lady and being turn into a CPO car also you cant go wrong I think.
Pros: I love the comfort/luxury the car has and it seems to be a pretty decent daily driver so far. It is also pretty squeak and rattle free for a convertible. Cons: is I wish it had more low end tq. This would be better for launching the car off the line and help with driving in stop and go traffic. That being said the best handling fastest "stock" car I have owned has bar none, hands down been the GTR. After a year or two I will probably get another one. I only had a cobb tune with mid pipes and exhaust and it was a beast. My only pet peeve would be the spartan interior. It could be a bit more luxurious and have better quality materials used but other than that it was a great ride. The service scare that circulated around the web was totally false as was the glass transmissions too. What made that car so great was the combination of 4 things = AWD+Dual Clutch transmission+electronics and of course the 3.8 liter twin turbo V6. If you can afford one get it. |
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The only race car I've owned, honestly, was my '05 STI. lol The '04, the first model brought to the US, was really a race car. That car was amazing. Rawest car I've ever driven.
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03-18-2012, 10:15 PM | #33 | |
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C63 has the double clutch. |
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03-18-2012, 10:24 PM | #36 |
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I owned C63 and now m3. IMHO sotck to stock or modded to modded, c63 is the king of drag. A NA c63 with tune and exhaust can push out over 500 rwhp, theres no way m3 can beat this. Interior and exteior is subjective so dont talk about this. Handling a lot of BMW guys say it drives like boat. Ive driven plenty of mercedes and trust me, C63 is totally out of what i expected, it handles way better then what i expected.
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I went to take a close look at a C63. Outside of the 6.2 liter engine (that has even more displacement than a GM 350!) and the accompanying exhaust note, the rest of the car doesn't do it for me. The interior of the car does not appear to be on the same level as the 92X's. The bonus points for the C63 going to the more modern dash gauge/cluster. The exterior, I just couldn't feel it. Personally, I think the C63 sedan looks better than the coupe.
Afterwards, I went across the business park to check out the 991 at Champion Porsche. While driving through the dealer lot, the owner of Champion Porsche complimented my M3. Verbatim - "That's a Really Nice Car". Dave Maraj the owner of Champion is one of the biggest car enthusiasts you will find. On top of winning Lemans and Sebring. He know's cars..Over the years, I've met some cool folks there including Hans Stuck and Bill Adam when they drove for Champion. Back on topic: The C63 is a nice car - it just doesn't have the design/engineering prowess of the M3. IMHO Finally got a chance to take a good look at the 991, a logical progression from the M3 I also got a chance to go on a spirited drive in a Panamera GTS - nyccee!!
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I have no idea what the stats are on the Panamera because I find them to be the most unsightly car introduced since the Pacer. And yeah, that is strictly opinion and completely subjective but there it is, that thing would puke a goat. Also, did I mention its butt ugly? I mean if that thing had a mother she probably hung herself. O_o
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That's awesome. Haven't had a chance to drive one yet. On the AMGs exhaust note-I do like now loud it is but that's it. It doesn't sound good. I love with the standard M3 exhaust and on the perf exhaust how the sound different and have different pitches between starting up,idling, driving, and flooring it. With the C63 it just seems that it sounds the same no matter what. Another thing I have noticed with AMG is how quick they come out after the normal model. The new ML SUV came out just a few months ago and now the AMG version is out as well and similarly with the C class. It takes years to get the M out.
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good thing tha someone is talking from experience here, but according to gthal the year models makes the difference. |
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