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03-29-2008, 12:49 AM | #2091 |
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I've seen this posted a couple times but it really holds little merit. The fact that someone bought/sold successfully on ebay in the past means very little. There's really very little at stake with regard to the account and it isn't an accurate representation of his ability to complete the transaction.
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While it is true that there is little at stake if he can't pay...but there would have been some sign of it before...just like there was with the DEALER...
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Considering the amount of time, energy, expense and aggravation Ken may experienced, coupled with the potential loss of trust and faith in a well-used system of purchase and the like, I'd venture to guess that Ken has much more at stake than you or I. That's my personal take on what has transpired to-date. Last edited by advancedlogic; 03-29-2008 at 01:16 AM.. Reason: struck "stake" for "take" as intended |
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A couple = 2 A few = 3 or 4 If you can find 4, I stand corrected. Thanks! |
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03-29-2008, 01:27 AM | #2096 | |
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Dealerships are NOT the victim. And if what you say is true and the dealer has gotten so many walk-ins from this event, then once again(and by your own admission) they are profiting while the guy who was getting screwed is paying for a lawyer to aid him in a case against a multi-billion dollar company, certainly won't end up spending just $60K to get this car... |
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Because I have "a lot of time on my hands," I decided to just see what i can find on Ken and from what i have found is he is an Information Systems Manager for a multinational company. I don't think he's sitting here going eh, i don't know if i can afford this car. He's in California so the assumption is that he's making more then 6 figures a year.
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Wow I just hope Ken gets his car soon so we can go back to talkin normal stuff about M3's and mods!
Seriously all parties need to do the right thing here and we need to leave them alone sort of to do it before we mess up dude's deal and chances of getting the car.
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I opine that there is the very real chance that Ken may not be speaking until negotiations resume with counsel. Do not let the preceeding elude you, or this community. Continue to show your support through constructive posts and the like, but I'd advise against any unsolicited attempts to contact, harass, berate, belittle, and defame any individual or entity while the spector of litigation hangs. It isn't difficult to understand why this is important. |
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03-29-2008, 03:06 AM | #2101 | |
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Did everyone forget he is a Lexus IS owner. This could be a sick Lexus, FU BMW joke. J/K - I really have no doubts at all this is real. You think someone made a fake Husker auction and it all went from there. Yeah right. |
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Every car maker works this way. The dealer is a franchise, they are expected to maintain the facade that the manufacturer expects but when it comes to business the car manufacturer is not responsible for what the dealer does.
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As complex as this has become, I'm still trying to encapsulate the core of the problem. It seems to me like it went something like this: 1. Ken wins bid on car for $60,000 Question: did he have the ability to pay within 72 at the time of the bid? 2. Dealer calls Ken up and says "We made a mistake, we can't sell you the car for that amount, but we can sell it to you for x dollars more." 3. Ken says "No, I want it for $60,000." Question: did the dealership ever agree to sell Ken the car for $60,000? Follow-up question: did Ken and the dealership ever agree on a price? - if so, then the dealer would be entitled to a down payment, and some kind of legal promise to pay within 72 hours (usually some sort of letter from the finance company). My experience has been that the dealership may try to hard-sell you on using their own financing, but that they generally don't have a problem with third party payment, and third party payments are perfectly common. Also, once the deal is made, the dealership gets the payment from the finance company for the full amount of the car's price in the form of a check or cashier's check. Then, the buyer and the finance company are the ones with an ongoing business arrangement, and the dealer is basically done. Whether the auto loan is in the form of a lease or a purchase is irrelevant to the dealership, and they shouldn't care one way or the other.
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Since there are serious litigation issues at play, I can only surmise that perhap's Ken's legal counsel has chosen to proceed at a pace that serves Ken's interests, should the matter reach a court of law. My opinion to all is to maintain support and withhold further judgement until the next business day (Monday). While the typical car buying experience can take place 7 days a week, matters of law requiring counsel are typically a Monday through Friday affair where attorney negotioations are concerned. I opine that there is the very real chance that Ken may not be speaking until negotiations resume with counsel. Do not let the preceeding elude you, or this community. Continue to show your support through constructive posts and the like, but I'd advise against any unsolicited attempts to contact, harass, berate, belittle, and defame any individual or entity while the spector of litigation hangs. It isn't difficult to understand why this is important. |
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Is this really bigger than the internet gambling pedophile on the NSX forum a few months ago?
I have had so many crappy Ebay experiences as an honest buyer lately I am not surprised at any of this. Unless Husker was also running a cat house and the ebay auction was for something other than what we think, maybe the buyer couldn't "finish the transaction"....
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Official statements have set C.O.B. Monday as the cutoff date. Now this is purely speculatory on my part, but perhaps then we may here something. Keep in mind that there are very real lives involved with very real consequences if law isn't followed to the "T". Last edited by advancedlogic; 03-29-2008 at 03:44 AM.. Reason: strike argumentative text unrelated to reply |
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so now everyone is slowly trying to gang up on Dooma just because he hasn't posted progress? tough crowd!
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Not at all. I'm just trying to take a step back and reduce 104 pages of posts to its essentials, and locate the basic point of contention. And, as advancedlogic already said, Dooma is probably keeping his mouth shut on the advice of his counsel, which is smart.
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