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[fpblue]

Anyone run on the Pirellis? How would you compare them to the Michellin's? How does the handling compare? Treadwear? I have already read the reviews on Tirerack.com, but I want to know what real people have experienced. I am not worried about the extra cost of the Pirellis. To be honest, I prefer not to buy products from France.

[Lemans_Blue_M]

Originally Posted by fpblue

Anyone run on the Pirellis? How would you compare them to the Michelin's? How does the handling compare? Treadwear? I have already read the reviews on Tirerack.com, but I want to know what real people have experienced. I am not worried about the extra cost of the Pirellis. To be honest, I prefer not to buy products from France.

The Pirelli P Zero can hold it's own with the Michelin PS2 performance wise.

Wet traction, dry traction, treadwear, tire weights, etc. are all very close.

The P Zero beats the PS2 by a slim margin in some categories, while the PS2 edges out the P Zero in others.

So it's a tougher call than some would think...

I have recommended both tires over the years, and they each seem to have a loyal fan base in the high-performance tire market.

With all that said, I would only recommend the Pirelli Zero for wheels with tricky offsets that require a skinny width tire within a given size.

Personally, I would never buy a Pirelli high-performance tire.

lol...on your France comment.

[montreal red]

i run Pzero Neros... not the same as Pzeros but i find the neros a noisy tire compared to PS2s

[stylinexpat]

Originally Posted by fpblue

Anyone run on the Pirellis? How would you compare them to the Michellin's? How does the handling compare? Treadwear? I have already read the reviews on Tirerack.com, but I want to know what real people have experienced. I am not worried about the extra cost of the Pirellis. To be honest, I prefer not to buy products from France.

The French are not as extreme as the Koreans are to buying imported products

[TLud]

I've found that performance is similar (I like the behavior of the PS2s at the limit a bit better), but the PZeros are a better street tire (quieter and ride better).

[Lemans_Blue_M]

Originally Posted by TLud

I've found that performance is similar (I like the behavior of the PS2s at the limit a bit better), but the PS2s are a better street tire (quieter and ride better).

wut?

[MMMorish]

Originally Posted by Lemans_Blue_M

wut?

I think TLud is saying that the PS2's inspire a bit more confidence in the driver because of their adhesion and road holding at higher limits. Whereas the PZero's are a bit better for normal day to day use. They're quieter and smoother.

Am I right, TLud?

[TLud]

Originally Posted by MMMorish

I think TLud is saying that the PS2's inspire a bit more confidence in the driver because of their adhesion and road holding at higher limits. Whereas the PZero's are a bit better for normal day to day use. They're quieter and smoother.

Am I right, TLud?

Yep. Corrected mistake in the first post.

The PS2s give you warning when you've exceeded your traction limits and make it easy to correct with the throttle. The PZeros broke traction much more suddenly and with less warning.

[ben@tirerack]

I mostly agree with Lemans_Blue. Very close performance between the two tires. Everyone has their brand/country prejudices, but objectively both tires are excellent.

As TLud says, the Michelin gives more warning before breaking away. The Pirelli has a littler sharper response but is a little less forgiving at the limit.