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03-19-2012, 12:57 AM | #24 |
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We have a sensible group of M3 owners (and some other exotics) doing a coastal caravan next Sunday in Los Angeles if any socal M3 owners want to join. This will definitely be a cruise and not a high speed sesh. PM me if interested
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If you want to try the track without committing to a helmet you can get a helmet liner. Some tracks have them for events for free or a few dollars. Alternately you can get one from a local motorsports shop or possibly a go-karting establishment. Worst case scenario is you can use a cold weather balaclava but you may pass out from the heat that builds up in your helmet at some point...
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i'm glad you know your comfort zone is. never think you're a better driver than you really are and you should stay out of trouble. if they're tell you that they want to see some m3 muscles that probably means they're driving something of less caliber.. save your gas, save your tires, and save your dignity. you know you'd pass them. and yes this is how most runs are..
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Don't be peer pressured into driving faster or doing things that you'd want to, further more on public roads probably not that advisable!
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For years, I actually used to organize runs like these with both Audi and the Nissan Z crowd. It is inevitable that when you get a group of driving enthusiasts together, a type of "mob mentality" ensues. How that mentality plays out at a particular event is anyone's guess. One year, things got very out of control. Some of the group started doing some really crazy shit on public roads. That was it. I was done organizing these things. Last thing I needed in my life was that kind of liability. I remember another incident when I was driving down to NYC with my wife. We saw a group of exotic cars driving very fast on the highway. Saw a Lamborghini run a toll booth at what must have been at least 90-100mph. Simply nuts !!!! For the most part, when I ran these events, we were on twisty New England mountain roads. Speeds varied anywhere from the speed limit at 30-35 through the center of small towns to about 90-100 on some open stretches. On occasion we broke 3 digits but this was rare. For the most part, the pace was brisk but in full control. Anyway....your experience is not typical, but is not surprising to me either. Really depends on the specifics of the group. Nowadays, I just go out on my own in the early hours of the morning on roads that I know and at speeds that I am comfortable with.
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Good for you for knowing you're uncomfortable in a situation and doing something about it. In my experience , it always seemed like the more people in the group, the bigger the drop in everyone's IQ .This was just as true when I'd go for a group ride on my motorcycle. Its one thing to have fun, its another to just be stupid. The last time I was involved in something like that , it was only about 20 minutes before I faded back and turned around to go home.I got a call the next day from a friend telling me that 2 of the pack were arrested for speed over 120mph and one guy wrecked and was in the Hospital.While I'm no Jenson Button, I know I can drive. But I have nothing to prove on the streets.There's just too much to lose I'd much rather prove my driving on a track , where a little trash talking with your friends can be a fun thing.
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Speaking of which, congrats on your upcoming track time...I bet you are muy excited!!!
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03-19-2012, 10:19 AM | #33 |
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Always drive your car at the speed you're comfortable with, don't give in to peer pressure, and enjoy the scenery. Getting instruction at the track will pay off in the long run...too many people drive fast without understanding the ramafications of their actions. Hats off to you
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Cheryl, you didn't do anything wrong, stick to your comfort zone. At the end, you will still have your car to drive tomorrow and the next day. You don't have to prove anything to anybody on what the M can do, it should be self explanatory on what your car can do. Sorry that the guys gave you a hard time, I myself do not like driving with idiots like that.
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From my experiences the rallies and car runs ive been on usually are balls out with mostly all the cars travelling at very high speed/racing. Depending on the size of the group, well usually split up and have the faster guys in their own group out front and the slower guys falling behind (well either wait for them at a meetup point up ahead or at the location if its close).
Personally I am one of those who tends to race etc..., but I never give others shit for not wanting to push it on the roads and respect their decision. When another fast/exotic car downshifts next to me on the highway looking to line up (and theres another 10+ cars around me either with their video cameras out or ready to run too) I can't help but hitting the M button, dropping it into gear, and going WOT. On runs with ER (exotics ralley) the cops know were coming out and habeclosed down the highway just to pull the entire caravan over on multiple occassions..in the end its a personal choice and noone shoudl be giving you shit for wanting to go at your own pace. |
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Good for you! Glad you didn't bow to the peer pressure. Very well may have saved your life or at least your license!
I agree with the post about buying a helmet. You said you're going to get some track time and then you'll want more. May as well get the helmet know and avoid the "smelly helmet" thang... Have fun!!
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You had every right to be uncomfortable, and no one has a right to tell you that you should have felt otherwise. Taking that to the track where it belongs is way smarter. It may be just as terrifying the first time around, but just keep inching out of your comfort zone, and you may find how much of a blast it is! Not to mention that it's completely legal and safer with emergency workers on hand.
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In SoCal about a month ago there was a RUN, and while heading out (I was in the very back) I guess everyone was trying to keep up, and guess what, yep, someone in a 335i was following too close and Rear-Ended one of the M3s.
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Never drive above your comfort zone on the road. Most groups are civil and tend to divide into groups depending on whether you're a road warrior or a stop and smell the roses kind of driver. It's a good idea to determine this for youself before you start out. The idea of these runs is to enjoy your car, the ride and get home in one piece. You're always going to have the A type personality, highly competitive guys who'll raz you. But who cares, give it right back to them - believe me, they enjoy that.
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