OEM M Wheels 260M vs 219M

jbeene · 11-09-2009, 09:23 PM

Anybody know the difference between these wheels?

From pictures they look identical ? Maybe the 260's aren't hypersilver but I really can't tell the difference. The dimensions, offset and sizes are identical.

SlammedR8 · 11-09-2009, 09:26 PM

European 18s are slightly different then the US/Canadian 18s

zuggerat89 · 11-09-2009, 09:29 PM

I never understood why they decided to make two different styles. Seems like it would be more cost effective to just to one style 18 and one style 19... hmm?

signes · 11-09-2009, 09:50 PM

I believe I read that one accommodates TPMS while the Euro version doesn't (since they do not use the same sensors on the rim) and thus has a slightly different barrel. I searched but didn't find a reference to it so somebody else chime in if this is wrong.

JAJ · 11-10-2009, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by signes

I believe I read that one accommodates TPMS while the Euro version doesn't (since they do not use the same sensors on the rim) and thus has a slightly different barrel. I searched but didn't find a reference to it so somebody else chime in if this is wrong.

I believe you are correct about TPMS, but I'm not sure.

The 260 and 219 rims have slightly different spokes - the 219 spokes are flattened on the outer face of the rim. The 260's appear to be more rounded or angled at the face.

There are pictures of both in the pictures section.

duk · 11-10-2009, 01:16 AM

pics??

zuggerat89 · 11-10-2009, 07:11 AM

I like the Euros so much better

bobbyz · 11-10-2009, 08:59 AM

No way, I like the US ones way better..We do not have TPMS here in Canada but still got the US wheels thank goodness. The spokes have more shape on the US ones...they go fat to skinny. Also, because they curve in right away, rather then going streight and curving close to the hub, they look so much more concave from the side angle. Most of the replicas out there are the Euro version.

Jaypod · 11-10-2009, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signes

I believe I read that one accommodates TPMS while the Euro version doesn't (since they do not use the same sensors on the rim) and thus has a slightly different barrel. I searched but didn't find a reference to it so somebody else chime in if this is wrong.

+1 under that same impression and thought I read the same thing somewhere on here.

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Originally Posted by bobbyz

No way, I like the US ones way better..We do not have TPMS here in Canada but still got the US wheels thank goodness. The spokes have more shape on the US ones...they go fat to skinny. Also, because they curve in right away, rather then going streight and curving close to the hub, they look so much more concave from the side angle. Most of the replicas out there are the Euro version.

Agreed!

SlammedR8 · 11-10-2009, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JAJ

I believe you are correct about TPMS, but I'm not sure.

The 260 and 219 rims have slightly different spokes - the 219 spokes are flattened on the outer face of the rim. The 260's appear to be more rounded or angled at the face.

There are pictures of both in the pictures section.

Exactly, the spokes are different. I dont think it has anything to do with the TPMS, because canadian M3s have the same wheels and the US M3s, however we do not use the same TPMS as the US guys. The spokes are different, therefore its not just the barrel that was designed without TPMS.

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Originally Posted by bobbyz

No way, I like the US ones way better..We do not have TPMS here in Canada but still got the US wheels thank goodness. The spokes have more shape on the US ones...they go fat to skinny. Also, because they curve in right away, rather then going streight and curving close to the hub, they look so much more concave from the side angle. Most of the replicas out there are the Euro version.

I agree, they do look 10x better. But some Euro freaks think the Euro is nicer

- to each their own!

I hate the 18s. PERIOD. Euro or North American.

jbeene · 11-10-2009, 09:01 PM

Wow, great replies. I honestly couldn't tell the difference and am looking for an 18 rim for winter set up so not too concerned about the minor difference in looks.

For whatever reason the I've been able to find new oem 260's for about $90 cheaper a wheel.

Since I've already demonstrated my ability to curb a wheel I figured I'd go with the cheaper ones.

Thanks for the replies

SenorFunkyPants · 11-11-2009, 03:00 AM

Euro cars (or at least UK cars) have a puncture prediction system based on wheel speed data from the ABS sensors...when a tyre loses a couple of psi it travels slightly faster, the speed difference is noted and the warning system lights up on the dash. It seems to work very well as its very sensitive.

bobbyz · 11-11-2009, 06:55 AM

Yes, Canadian cars use that system too (no TPMS). But we have the US 18" wheel, not the Euro 18" wheel.

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Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Euro cars (or at least UK cars) have a puncture prediction system based on wheel speed data from the ABS sensors...when a tyre loses a couple of psi it travels slightly faster, the speed difference is noted and the warning system lights up on the dash. It seems to work very well as its very sensitive.

signes · 11-12-2009, 10:36 AM

Found the reference to the info about the differences between the styles (in a thread about AP Racing brakes and clearance for 18s). Not an official source but makes sense. FWIW:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...1&postcount=81

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zuggerat89 Still waiting... 25 Rep 887 Posts Drives: OGV Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Monmouth County, NJ iTrader: (0)	I never understood why they decided to make two different styles. Seems like it would be more cost effective to just to one style 18 and one style 19... hmm?
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bobbyz First Lieutenant 13 Rep 311 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	No way, I like the US ones way better..We do not have TPMS here in Canada but still got the US wheels thank goodness. The spokes have more shape on the US ones...they go fat to skinny. Also, because they curve in right away, rather then going streight and curving close to the hub, they look so much more concave from the side angle. Most of the replicas out there are the Euro version.
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jbeene First Lieutenant 29 Rep 324 Posts Drives: 16 435i GC Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (1)	Wow, great replies. I honestly couldn't tell the difference and am looking for an 18 rim for winter set up so not too concerned about the minor difference in looks. For whatever reason the I've been able to find new oem 260's for about $90 cheaper a wheel. Since I've already demonstrated my ability to curb a wheel I figured I'd go with the cheaper ones. Thanks for the replies __________________ 16 435i xdrive Msport MPerformance 2 Ind Azurite on Opal
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SenorFunkyPants Brigadier General 2511 Rep 4,381 Posts Drives: 2019 M5 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Euro cars (or at least UK cars) have a puncture prediction system based on wheel speed data from the ABS sensors...when a tyre loses a couple of psi it travels slightly faster, the speed difference is noted and the warning system lights up on the dash. It seems to work very well as its very sensitive.
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signes Brigadier General 199 Rep 4,318 Posts Drives: 991 GT3 RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Living at (almost...) 9k iTrader: (5)	Found the reference to the info about the differences between the styles (in a thread about AP Racing brakes and clearance for 18s). Not an official source but makes sense. FWIW: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...1&postcount=81
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