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We are really starting to see mixed reviews on the brakes so in the end I think its going to be subjective. Jason
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Well...for what the M3 is likely to cost, I would expect more from it (DFI and brakes). Whether or not these things are needed is another debate, but we expect more in this competitive market. I mean as great a car as the M is going to be, it's not like it's crushing the competition. The z06, on the other hand, stomps most everything within striking distance of it's price and many well beyond it. So, as much as I am not a typical vette fan, I am willing to forgive it for it's flaws because it more than makes up for it in peformance. Not many other cars can say that. But, of course, most of us here wouldn't want that type of car anyway. |
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Guys, I think many of you are missing the big picture. Remember my (and others) mantra, the M3 is all about compromise. That DEFINITELY should not be interpreted as a negative thing either!
I am first in line agreeing that the new M3 SHOULD have multi-pot brakes and direct fuel injection. However, I often try to remind myself of this KEY point. Equal or better performance to the 911S and R8 for $20k/$50k less respectively! COMPROMISE - gotta love it. I'll try to remind myself of this key work during my next post criticising some part of the car I am not happy about. |
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Yeah, a 335i coupe w/4 Blizzaks or whatever will likely do the trick. I am not that familar w/ Audis. Is the B8 you are referring to the new A4? |
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I know they wont have too much of problem selling 50,000 of these babies on our soil at that price! Oh and that would also make it the best bang for the buck in its class and several classes above that too....then we can all stop bickering and get this forum in the right direction. Jason
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As far as supposedly beating the cars that you mentioned. Many times the ride is more than the numbers. If the M does beat the S at the Ring, does that make it a better car? In many people's minds, yes. And, it certainly deserves credit where it's due, especially being the under dog. But, it doesn't mean that it's more fun to drive. That, again, is a subjective decision. (I don't really believe that the M will best the S @ the Ring, but I'll play until the results come out.) |
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For example, I havnt driven anything that is much more fun that my E36 M3 even though by todays standards its a slow car. A Lotus Exige or Aerial Atom are probably very fun cars to drive but also very unpractical. The S2000 and Miata are little more practical but lack room and back seats. The Vettes are great performers but thats about it. The Porsches are awesome but the price of admission is steep. The M3 is going to be fun to drive, probably not as fun as a Lotus but still fun. Plus, I get a back seat, a great interior, cool electrical toys, and gobs of performance that will at least give a 997S a run for its money! And, Yes, since the "ring" has become the bench mark where all new sports cars tested, I do care about its lap time. Even coming close to the 997S is going to be thrilling. I mean we all love M3's but this is the first time an M3 has really given Porsche a run for its money. So, even coming close is at least as good as any other M3 and probably better than most. Jason
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I'm sure we could get a sweet group deal for all of us here.
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