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      07-05-2011, 08:43 PM   #133
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Gawd, Nancy Grace is such a dumb cunt.
She and people on her show are blasting Casey cause they think she's gonna be a millionaire by selling her story, book deal, movie, etc. But you don't hear them blasting George and Cindy for selling pictures and appearances. Exact same thing...
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      07-05-2011, 08:44 PM   #134
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The body was partly eaten by animals and entirely decomposed. I had no idea that you were a forensics expert along with being an attorney.
I was stating facts that came out in the trial. I know you don't care for evidence at all, so you should refrain talking about specifics.
When all you find are bones in a bag and the medical examiner cannot determine the cause of death, then you can't say it was murder. There was nothing in the bag to indicate how the death occurred.
We can't spoon feed you everything the rest of your life.
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      07-05-2011, 08:59 PM   #135
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I am going to refrain from insulting your logic and lack of understanding the US court system. Those are coincidental facts of evidence. I too happen to own some duct tape, a shovel and trash bags. Doesnt mean I did it!

Since you dont understand, they did not find her fingerprints on the duct tape with the body. They did not find any fingerprints on the trash bag either. They didnt find any hair from Casey at the crime scene. There was no blood in her car.They didnt find jack shit. As sad as it is, you have to accept it.
My lack of understanding? I understand the justice system. I understand why she was found not guilty. Trust me, I fully understand.

What I'm trying to say is, if you ignore what I have stated in my previous posts, I believe you are sadly mistaken.

Just because you own trash bags, a shovel and duct tape doesn't mean you did it. What I'm trying to say is, if you ignore the fact that Casey was the last person seen with her daughter and she is completely oblivious as to what happened to her daughter, that should throw a red flag. And she hardly seemed to care with the life style she was living after the disappearance of her daughter. Now add in everything else that was presented in the case.

Even though there is no hardcore evidence that she killed her own daughter, you have to be a fool to think that she didn't do it. Her daughter was missing for 31 days. 31 days. And then she finally reported her missing. She clearly did not care enough to want to find her own child.

Cmon people. With sufficient evidence or not, a person's actions speak loudly.
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      07-05-2011, 09:04 PM   #136
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I was stating facts that came out in the trial. I know you don't care for evidence at all, so you should refrain talking about specifics.
When all you find are bones in a bag and the medical examiner cannot determine the cause of death, then you can't say it was murder. There was nothing in the bag to indicate how the death occurred.
We can't spoon feed you everything the rest of your life.
You clearly don't get it. How many normal people put a deceased human body in a garbage bag and then goes and buries it in a swamp?
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casey anthony will pay for what she did.
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      07-05-2011, 09:15 PM   #138
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Nope, she'll get paid for what she did. You'll be seeing her quite often in interviews, books, etc...
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      07-05-2011, 09:22 PM   #139
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You clearly don't get it. How many normal people put a deceased human body in a garbage bag and then goes and buries it in a swamp?
Normal people don't but we also can't prove who did without concrete evidence. Without that you don't have a conviction as you can see from what happened today. If I was a juror in this case, given the evidence shown in court I would have to acquit as well.
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Normal people don't but we also can't prove who did without concrete evidence. Without that you don't have a conviction as you can see from what happened today. If I was a juror in this case, given the evidence shown in court I would have to acquit as well.
Understandable. But you don't seem to find it weird that Casey had no idea where her daughter went even though she was the last person that was with her. Nothing adds up. So when nothing adds up, the right thing to do is say she's innocent? Boggles my mind. She had one hell of a defense team. That's for sure.
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      07-05-2011, 09:32 PM   #141
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If I was a juror in this case, given the evidence shown in court I would have to acquit as well.
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      07-05-2011, 09:46 PM   #142
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Understandable. But you don't seem to find it weird that Casey had no idea where her daughter went even though she was the last person that was with her. Nothing adds up. So when nothing adds up, the right thing to do is say she's innocent? Boggles my mind. She had one hell of a defense team. That's for sure.
I find the whole thing weird and I think she's a horrible person who killed her daughter but me thinking that isn't enough for a conviction.
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Gawd, Nancy Grace is such a dumb cunt.
She and people on her show are blasting Casey cause they think she's gonna be a millionaire by selling her story, book deal, movie, etc. But you don't hear them blasting George and Cindy for selling pictures and appearances. Exact same thing...
That bitch needs to get hit by a bus. I seriously hope that Casey's lawyer sues the shit out of her for slander or something if for nothing more than to see her get nailed to the wall. She (and that whole HLN network) are an embarrassment to news. It's nothing more than the Entertainment Tonight version of the news.
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      07-05-2011, 09:50 PM   #144
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That bitch needs to get hit by a bus. I seriously hope that Casey's lawyer sues the shit out of her for slander or something if for nothing more than to see her get nailed to the wall. She (and that whole HLN network) are an embarrassment to news. It's nothing more than the Entertainment Tonight version of the news.
It is basically ET, in fact, ET does have a spot on that network.
Grace and Politan has been so biased ever since the verdict came in. It's really weird how one sided those shows are and allowed on national TV like they are actually "reporting" news.
Grace gets so over-dramatic talking about Caylee and these long over-produced pauses that are so fake and retarded.
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I understand. This topic is going to spark heated debate.

If this can't be kept civil, it's getting nuked.

Calm it down and if you can't, stay out of it.
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look, people. casey's defense didn't have to prove that she was innocent. the great state of Florida had to prove that she was guilty. they couldn't. the jury made the right decision. the evidence was flaky and circumstantial at best. text time go for criminal negligence, etc instead of trying to get some publicity by giving some whore the death penalty with a weak case.

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      07-05-2011, 11:04 PM   #151
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I don't give two shits about evidence. Common sense tells you everything you need to know. The stupidity some people have simply amazes me.
You're probably still amazed by my stupidity, but I don't see any reason to be certain that Casey Anthony murdered her daughter. In fact, I don't see any reason to be certain that her daughter was ever murdered.

There is the pesky problem of causality. If you're going to assert that the event that was Caylee Anthony's death was caused by another event that was her murder, then there should be some evidence to support that assertion, establishing a causal link. Providing such a link can be established, then one still would have to prove that the event that was Caylee Anthony's death was caused by by a subsequent event that was her murder by the hand of her mother.

In this particular instance, there is no evidence to support a causal link as regards the former assertion, much less the latter.
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Anyone see the celebration party at the local bar by the defense team? They were out celebrating drinking champagne, some of them laughing a lot, jumping up and down clapping and the whole works. An innocent child lost her life and this is the class and respect these clowns have? I hope Karmas serves them well.

There was PLENTY of evidence to get her Ive been following this case since day one, WTF happened here?!! They sold the jury bunch of BULLSHIT saying child died in a pool accident.

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i asked if you believe she is guilty or not. i did not say what the court should do. the prosecution did a lousy job, lack of evidence means she walks out, like it or not thats how it goes.
I know you asked this from Collins, but here's what I believe: I believe (like the jurors) that there was insufficient evidence to convict Casey. I will reserve judgment on who is guilty until sufficient evidence is presented. To believe otherwise would be morally irresponsible.

Sidenote: it will be interesting if the relatives of Caylee pursue a civil action against Casey for wrongful death. A civil action has a much lower standard for determining liability: preponderence of the evidence (i.e. more likely than not). Of course, a civil action will only prove that Casey's actions proximately caused the death of Caylee (obviously, not for murder). I could be persuaded to believe that Casey's actions did lead somewhat to the death of Caylee (negligence, etc.). But that's a far cry from murder.
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