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02-14-2012, 03:39 PM | #23 | |
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LOL, i wish man, but I just cant afford it. GLWS though! and good luck in NASA
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02-14-2012, 05:16 PM | #26 |
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tinpot doesn't have the Dinan car. The other Dinan car is ///M Ryder. And yes we both have the Dinan tune, hence no torque drop and HP climbs to 8400 rpm.
And yes xsilvor, you need to get the Dinan Mid-Pipe and rear section. I still need to give you a ride. Keep in mind, for some strange reason, the full Dinan setup sounds different in an E90 than E92. In the E90, it sounds more raw-like, growly, and raspy. In the E92, it sounds more refined and a smoother tone, but still pretty loud at WOT. Pay close attention in the two videos just before the E92 and E90 go WOT on the dyno. You can hear the difference. For both E90 and E92, at cruising speeds (non-WOT), both cars sounds like they only have the Dinan mufflers--which sounds almost like stock. So in a nutshell, the full Dinan system can be quiet if you want it to, or extremely loud if you want it to. Last edited by frankzlin79; 02-14-2012 at 08:26 PM.. |
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02-14-2012, 11:02 PM | #30 |
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You can do performance mods on the E9X M3, just be expecting to spend a whole lot of money for minimal gains (less than 30 whp). If you want the best bang for our buck, the only thing you need is a cat-less mid-pipe and a tune.
If you want serious gains, then forced induction is the only way to go, but by then, we're talking about spending a whole bunch of money. Of course, the correction factor used is also very important. STD corrected numbers can be 10 or more whp higher than SAE corrected numbers. A lot of people post the STD numbers. Some people will do worst and just post a number, without stating the correction factor used (if any) or just post the uncorrected number. My car was making 379 whp at 51 deg F and 40% humidity using uncorrected numbers. I wish I got the print-out for the STD corrected numbers to compare with my SAE corrected numbers, but I forgot. |
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02-15-2012, 10:10 AM | #32 |
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Thanks for sharing the results. What I'd be most interested though is to see how these cars compare on the streets. What I've been seeing lately dynoing my own cars and seeing others, is that despite our power variances, sometimes they perform the same or even "underpowered" cars perform better.
I could be wrong, but I feel like dynoing these cars and comparing to other fellow M3s can be pretty difficult and should always be taken with a grain of salt. Either way, it looks like you all have well powered NA M3s! A definite good group cars over there
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02-15-2012, 02:36 PM | #34 |
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Stock 334 whp 246 ft-lbs vs 2009 M3 E90 - 6MT Performance Mods: Turner Test Pipe Evolve Software Tune Active Autowerke Green Filter 340 whp 244 ft-lbs so primary cat delete + tune only yields 6 whp increase?? |
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02-15-2012, 03:05 PM | #35 |
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Here's your Dyno Database entries: www.bmwdynodatabase.com
2008 M3 E92 - DCT Stock 334 whp 246 ft-lbs http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=478 2009 M3 E90 - 6MT Performance Mods: Turner Test Pipe Evolve Software Tune Active Autowerke Green Filter 340 whp 244 ft-lbs http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=479 2011 M3 E92 - DCT Performance Mods: Dinan Mid-Racing Pipe Dinan Rear Exhaust Dinan Underdrive Pulley Dinan Mid-Racing Software Tune Dinan Intake 351 whp 228 ft-lbs http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=480 2010 M3 E90 - DCT Performance Mods: Dinan Mid-Racing Pipe Dinan Rear Exhaust Dinan Underdrive Pulley Dinan Mid-Racing Software Tune Macht Schnell Air Filter 354 whp 236 ft-lbs http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=481 (SAE Corrected) http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=482 (Uncorrected) |
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02-15-2012, 03:15 PM | #36 | |
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maybe the way both cars are driven could sway the results? |
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02-15-2012, 03:22 PM | #37 | |
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It would be a lot more beneficial if the individuals with bolt-ons and tunes had baselines from their own vehicles on the dyno and other performance data to truly gauge the benefits of their respective modifications.
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02-15-2012, 03:44 PM | #38 | |
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2008 M3 E92 - DCT (rlzhao) 2009 M3 E90 - 6MT (KennyPowers) 2011 M3 E92 - DCT (///M Ryder) 2010 M3 E90 - DCT (frankzlin79) Last edited by frankzlin79; 02-15-2012 at 03:56 PM.. |
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02-15-2012, 03:46 PM | #39 | |
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But tinpot has done multiple dynos as he was modifying. When his car (before he got ESS S/C) was close to similar modifications as ///M Ryder and mine, I believe that he said he was making around 350 whp, too. |
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02-15-2012, 04:10 PM | #40 |
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I really qustion some of the entires in this database. Like this E92 6MT with only an Eissenmann Race exhaust making 370 whp (SAE Corrected)....
http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.php?recID=421 |
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I can almost guarantee that the specific car that put down 370whp SAE will run probably no quicker on the straight away compared to Richards 334whp SAE. If my assumptions are wrong, please correct me.
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02-15-2012, 05:48 PM | #43 |
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The problem is also that dynos across the country may not be calibrated correctly or have lost calibration over time (and the shop owners don't realize it). Thus, some HP and TQ numbers may be skewed to high or too low. The only way to compare different M3s power is to have them all make runs on the same exact dyno.
With that said, everybody on the forum should drive to Houston for a super dyno day! |
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