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03-17-2011, 10:19 AM | #23 |
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I've been rev matching for over 10 years. It's still just as enjoyable and satisfying as the first time I ever got it right. The M3's throttle response makes it more fun than most of the past cars I've owned. No need to troll a 6Mt thread.
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03-17-2011, 10:50 AM | #24 |
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Thanks a lot for all the feed back guys!
Now when I look at my tachometer before rev matching, most of the time I can do it (about 60 70% of the time, but it is absolutely fun)!! I tried it with the power mode on (as it was suggested here) and it does make it easier. Thanks for the great hint! And I am thinking about removing the spring from my clutch pretty soon to see if it makes driving the M3 even more enjoyable. Thanks again.
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How about DCT is faster!! no 6MT people accusing DCT drivers of being lazy? and claiming that they are better drivers!! DCT people are not gloating about their 0-60 records..what happened to the universe??
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in any case, I'm glad we all agree that DCT is far better than 6MT
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03-17-2011, 11:15 AM | #29 |
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Hahaha, You want to start it again!
There you go, 6MT is more fun, you feel more connected to your car, and you have full control over your car!!!!
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More connected -- well you do use your left foot In control is where the 6MT people lose us!! We are just as in control as the 6MT. What do you think we do on S mode (D is a plus for traffic and coffee which I'm sure even MT drivers would agree). Yeeeeaaah I think we are on.
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i can heel toe fine in my e30 which is pretty important at the track but I've been having trouble using the same method on the m3 mainly due to the fact that the brake pedal is a helluv a lot more sensitive than my e30 so I'm having trouble using the correct amount of brake pressure before blipping the throttle. I guess I just need to practice more and drive that car more often
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03-17-2011, 12:24 PM | #33 |
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Even if you rev match badly, it's A LOT better than taking the lazy approach and getting an automatic . And yes, I said lazy because that's what it is <insert spoiled accent here>: too much traffic and my puny leg will get tired; I can 't text while I'm in traffic; I'd look stupid with my friends that I don't know how to drive a manual well if I don't get a DCT; I like to pretend I can drive like a pro right off the bat... Ha ha. And yes, I understand an automatic for a family car, but on a high-performance car I just don't get it.
It's exactly the same as if you let a porn star bang your SO because he's going to do it better than you. As bad as you do it, it's something you want to do do yourself, and learn how to do better, right? Same thing folks. Get a freaking 6MT while you can and enjoy having full control of your car; who the hell cares how slower than DCT you are. And yes, we all know we'll be slower than DCT, but just as the example above, I rather do the work myself than letting somebody else (or a computer) do the work for me . Now I freaking made it a 6MT vs DCT... to defend our honor . Good day gang. |
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Just keep working at it...I have gotten to the point where I am within 100-200 RPM of where the RPMS should be.
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I've owned both. I can downshift my 6sp with more control and often faster than my previous DCT. 6MT vs DCT ... Let the fun continue ...
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I've only had the car for about a year now but got all the shifting shenanigans down Still have to work on the heal-toe a bit more till I can perfect it, but other than that it's smooooth
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regarding the DCT Vs 6MT talk
6MT guys, please give some time to the DCT guys to reply you see, they seem to suffer from some lag, so it might take them a little longer to reply |
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You rev match a 6MT good, sure....great, maybe....Perfect, unlikely but giving you the benefit of doubt BUT faster than S5?? come on, don't insult our intelligence. No one is trying to take the "fun factor" out of the 6MT argument so please be reasonable and don't take the "Hi tech/faster factor" out of the DCT argument.. The rest of the differences (more connected, accuracy, reproducibility, convenience, …,…) are fair game I’m not a mechanic/engineer but I’d think to produce a perfect rev matching (every time no matter if that’s while playing chicken with a lambo coming at you 100miles/hour) The computer calculates many factors may be (velocity, deceleration, gravity and the 2 gears you’re switching between) to come up with a specific RPM number to dial and I don’t have it in me to believe that any driver can do that constantly..
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One thing that is rarely mentioned in these threads is that by not having to use your left foot to clutch it is possible to left foot brake. It took me a long time to feel comfortable doing that but once you get to the point where you are not only using the brakes to slow the car but to manage weight transfer and contact patch size left foot braking can give you an advantage. There is a reason why virtually all Formula 1 drivers and many (if not most) ALMS drivers left foot brake. CA
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Anyhow, seriously, I have no problems w/ experienced MT people insisting that MT is the way to go for them. I respect that. But, I see so many people who just barely learned to shift the stick, or have been MT'ing for a while but barely know how to heel-and-toe to rev-match, excitedly extolling the virtue of 'rowing your own boat,' going "I love how engaging it is," "I'm a 6MT kind of guy" (lolwut?), "gimme 6MT or death!," "I'm in total control" (really? you?), etc, etc. Quote:
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