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      08-15-2014, 07:39 PM   #441
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This "research" or "study" is total BS. You cannot take voluntary data from a very small select group of individuals on a enthusiast website and extrapolate that data to determine a single thing. There is so much bias consuming that data that it breaks every single rule of statistics. You CANNOT infer a single thing from this data.
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      08-15-2014, 09:14 PM   #442
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Small sample size notwithstanding, the failures appear to be correlated to $$$ more than anything else.
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      08-15-2014, 09:34 PM   #443
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Small sample size notwithstanding, the failures appear to be correlated to $$$ more than anything else.
I was thinking the other day, since I moved 3 years ago, I'm not close to an onramp/freeway, so I've not had to "hit it" while the car is cold. I wonder how many folks have no opportunity to warm the oil to proper operating temp before hitting higher speeds out of necessity.

Also, how many folks (El Lay especially), get in their cars, just to be instantly experience stop-and-go traffic.
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When out of warranty you will need a lot of luck to count on the BMW goodwill !
BTW..hope it for all of us ,but don't count on it !
True...as difficult as it is to get approved for Goodwill warranty, BMW has a new good will policy. I believe the will cover 70% of the repair cost, up to $6000 max.
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This whole topic on engine failure and rod bearing issue is like flogging a dead horse in IHO. We just got to hope that it doesn't happen to us and when it does happen BMW come to the party. Seriously, us going on about this is not going to help any except educate what bearing failures are all about and try and take preventive measures.

As I have said before, my car will be 7 years old in September since the build, and on road as of November. Who know what's in store for me. I have 45k km to date. I will keep enjoying until that day ...
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      08-16-2014, 04:08 AM   #446
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Well in my case, I've been denied any goodwill offer at the dealership level. They've given me an invoice for $26k to replace the motor with a new long block. I contacted customer relations and opened a case with them as well and was ultimately denied again yesterday morning.

At this point it seems I may be on my own...
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      08-16-2014, 05:31 AM   #447
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Well in my case, I've been denied any goodwill offer at the dealership level. They've given me an invoice for $26k to replace the motor with a new long block. I contacted customer relations and opened a case with them as well and was ultimately denied again yesterday morning.
At this point it seems I may be on my own...
I guess when the time comes it would make sense to look for a used engine and have an indy shop fit it for you.
Either way thats a pretty crappy response from BMW I would have hoped for at least a decent goodwill contribution to the costs.
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Well in my case, I've been denied any goodwill offer at the dealership level. They've given me an invoice for $26k to replace the motor with a new long block. I contacted customer relations and opened a case with them as well and was ultimately denied again yesterday morning.

At this point it seems I may be on my own...
Sorry to hear that. How many miles and what year is the car?
Was it a bearing issue? I've added you to the registry for now.

I'd seriously consider getting a lawyer like on the bottom of the OP, but that was in Cali.

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Either way thats a pretty crappy response from BMW I would have hoped for at least a decent goodwill contribution to the costs.
+1

Very disappointed in BMW. Clearly it is not normal for an engine to fail and need replacing and BMW should do anything they can to help the customer out. Its not like we are talking about an a/c unit or a throttle actuator failing. This is a freaking $25k+ repair.
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Well in my case, I've been denied any goodwill offer at the dealership level. They've given me an invoice for $26k to replace the motor with a new long block. I contacted customer relations and opened a case with them as well and was ultimately denied again yesterday morning.

At this point it seems I may be on my own...
I am sorry to hear that. I was given the same responses as well. I will try one last time. If not, I will rebuild the engine from the ground up in house and once and for all solve the issue permanently.
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      08-16-2014, 03:05 PM   #451
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Sorry to hear that. How many miles and what year is the car?
Was it a bearing issue? I've added you to the registry for now.

I'd seriously consider getting a lawyer like on the bottom of the OP, but that was in Cali.

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It was a 2008 with about 90k. I bought it less than 4 months ago with 86k. Yeah main bearing failure. I'm going to contact my lawyer on Monday and see what options I may have. I did buy the car in San Diego, CA and drive it back to AZ.
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I am sorry to hear that. I was given the same responses as well. I will try one last time. If not, I will rebuild the engine from the ground up in house and once and for all solve the issue permanently.
I'd be interested to know how you fare. Please keep us updated, thanks.
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Just going to leave this here... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_action
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Just going to leave this here... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_action
It's something ! And better than nothing !
But the big question is....is it strong enough knowing our roundel ?
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      08-16-2014, 08:00 PM   #455
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It was a 2008 with about 90k. I bought it less than 4 months ago with 86k. Yeah main bearing failure. I'm going to contact my lawyer on Monday and see what options I may have. I did buy the car in San Diego, CA and drive it back to AZ.
Main bearing or rod bearings?

Did u have an oil analysis done at any time while you owned it?
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      08-17-2014, 04:46 AM   #456
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what about oil consumption?

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=975595

some engines, burn oil, others less, others dont. Maybe a engine that dont burn oil have more risk to blown it?
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what about oil consumption?

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=975595

some engines, burn oil, others less, others dont. Maybe a engine that dont burn oil have more risk to blown it?
Given that the bearings are the failure point, I struggle to think of any possible connection between oil burning and engine failure.
(short of different people running different brands/weights of oil, some of which are more prone to burning than others)
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My rod bearings

I thought I would share this.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...3#post16492983
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Been shopping around for a used E9X M3 and this shit is really starting to make me question whether or not I should get one. Maybe it's time I start looking at clean E46's again... Fuuuuuu
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      08-19-2014, 06:19 PM   #460
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Been shopping around for a used E9X M3 and this shit is really starting to make me question whether or not I should get one. Maybe it's time I start looking at clean E46's again... Fuuuuuu
LOL I feel yeah, dont forget this issue started with e46 first ones to have blown motor due to rod bearings.
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LOL I feel yeah, dont forget this issue started with e46 first ones to have blown motor due to rod bearings.
All the S54s in M3s with the misproduced rod bearings (2001 and 2002 production cars) have long since been recalled and replaced.
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LOL I feel yeah, dont forget this issue started with e46 first ones to have blown motor due to rod bearings.
All the S54s in M3s with the misproduced rod bearings (2001 and 2002 production cars) have long since been recalled and replaced.
Good point
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