2011 335is: Is anyone else a little pissed?

NewM3driver · 01-25-2010, 09:24 PM

How many here have watched the auto spied vid on the new 335is and came away feeling that BMW is making the 335 just a bit too close to the M3 for considerably less money.

Further, they have the thing set up with a very aggressive sports exhaust, a really nice steering wheel and a bunch of other really nice touches that are not available on the M3. There is even a button that allows 7 seconds of 375 ft/lbs of torque when you want it... awesome new headlights and interior finishes.

I feel these "special" items should be reserved for those that are paying top dollar for the M cars, and I fully intend to write BMW NA (the president of North American sales, perhaps) and let them know I am not happy. I have purchased 12 or 13 BMW's going back through the years and for the first time I feel like I am on the shitty end of the stick here.

Am I the only one feeling like this?

theeeee · 01-25-2010, 09:32 PM

wahhhhh wahhhhhhh
stop being a crybaby

we all still know that the 335is doesn't stand a chance against the m3

cap_freez · 01-25-2010, 09:48 PM

I still find the m3 is the better looking car and is still most probably a better all around sports car. all the other extra things on the 335is are gadgets. But you bring a valid point. the two cars are getting uncomfortably closer. will the m3 get new stuff for 2011???

montreal red · 01-25-2010, 09:57 PM

there'll always be newer cars that would make us feel a little 'shitty' and jealous... but think bout it... all those owners who buy the 335is would feel like crap when the BRAND NEW 3 series gets launched in 2012. their car would feel special for at most a year or a year and half after they get it...

on the other hand, there wont be another m3 until at least 2 years into the new F series 3er... so that means we wont see a new m3 until 2014 or so... doesnt make me feel that shitty if you ask me.

JC919 · 01-25-2010, 09:58 PM

Doesn't bother me in the slightest

tuco44 · 01-25-2010, 10:04 PM

Doesn't bother me, either. No problem.

Green///Hell · 01-25-2010, 10:05 PM

It's still a 335 so I'm not upset
I just want to know what the upgraded materials fit and finish are they talked about in the press kit??

Other than that they could keep their 7 sec of boost, its just turbo lag

BCA · 01-25-2010, 10:17 PM

Doesn't bother me a bit either. I have a sedan anyway!

When you really think about the things that the 335is DOESN'T have, like the M suspension bits, LSD, aggressive body and that irreplaceable V8 sound

, it should bother you less and less.

spyderco10 · 01-25-2010, 10:40 PM

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NewM3driver · 01-25-2010, 10:42 PM

I don't know... It has the M body kit, the M steering wheel and rims, the upgraded suspension, the DCT... all the M goodies. WHy not offer a BMW tuned sport exhaust for the M3?

In the vid, the conclusion is it is all the M3 is for 9 grand less and with better fuel economy. I know there will always be the next best thing, but BMW is sold M3 customers a nice package at a hefty premium, and is now offering very similar upgrades (in some cases better) at 10 cents on the dollar.

If BMW can pack all this(including 375 ft/lbs of torque and a sub 5 second 0-60 time) into the 335is for such a low price, it makes me feel I paid too much for my car.

Fanta · 01-25-2010, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montreal red

there'll always be newer cars that would make us feel a little 'shitty' and jealous... but think bout it... all those owners who buy the 335is would feel like crap when the BRAND NEW 3 series gets launched in 2012. their car would feel special for at most a year or a year and half after they get it...

on the other hand, there wont be another m3 until at least 2 years into the new F series 3er... so that means we wont see a new m3 until 2014 or so... doesnt make me feel that shitty if you ask me.

+1!
335i Coupe's owner may be a little upset.

Gearhead999s · 01-25-2010, 10:50 PM

Yeah I so pissed that I ordered a E93 335is from March production to replace my wifes 07 335 E93

It will never be an M3 but it will be a very nice car to have around.I could not see the point of an E93 M3 for her anyways but then again I have never seen the point of an M3 cab.

lebreeze · 01-25-2010, 10:51 PM

Every 335 owner would still prefer a M3. It they deny that they are lying to themselves.

consolidated · 01-25-2010, 10:52 PM

3 pages, once the 335 boys arrive

Gearhead999s · 01-25-2010, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lebreeze

Every 335 owner would still prefer a M3. It they deny that they are lying to themselves.

Not my wife,which just suits me fine

valeram · 01-25-2010, 11:05 PM

Yes it bothered me that is why I traded my 335 to an M3.

NYSPEM3 · 01-25-2010, 11:06 PM

If I want a souped-up 335, I'd just get the 335 and spend a few thousand dollars on Dinan stuff.
Not to mention that 335is is getting close, price wise, to a stripper M3 sedan. I believe C&D actually said anyone looking at a 335is coupe should just spend a little more for a M3 sedan.

Fanta · 01-25-2010, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

Yeah I so pissed that I ordered a E93 335is from March production to replace my wifes 07 335 E93

It will never be an M3 but it will be a very nice car to have around.I could not see the point of an E93 M3 for her anyways but then again I have never seen the point of an M3 cab.

Congratulations! New car! Will you drive 335is all year around?

e46e92love · 01-25-2010, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewM3driver

I don't know... It has the M body kit, the M steering wheel and rims, the upgraded suspension, the DCT... all the M goodies. WHy not offer a BMW tuned sport exhaust for the M3?

In the vid, the conclusion is it is all the M3 is for 9 grand less and with better fuel economy. I know there will always be the next best thing, but BMW is sold M3 customers a nice package at a hefty premium, and is now offering very similar upgrades (in some cases better) at 10 cents on the dollar.

If BMW can pack all this(including 375 ft/lbs of torque and a sub 5 second 0-60 time) into the 335is for such a low price, it makes me feel I paid too much for my car.

Performance is not the only thing that makes your car special, itws the way it achieves that performance. that S65 is a great engine than the N54 or 55 could ever dream of being. Enjoy your engine and car, its teh last of its kind, from now on you will see cheaper made FI giving you all that power the easy way.

Stop worrying, go for drive in your car...........

Cheers,
e46e92

FStop7 · 01-25-2010, 11:11 PM

No.

FStop7 · 01-25-2010, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by consolidated

3 pages, once the 335 boys arrive

they aren't here yet because their turbos are still waiting to spool

rzm3 · 01-25-2010, 11:14 PM

An M will always be an M. BMW is not stupid enough to make a regular 3 as good as an M. Period.

(If they do, then it will be time to move on.)

01-25-2010, 09:24 PM	#1
NewM3driver Colonel 1110 Rep 2,008 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 ZCP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	2011 335is: Is anyone else a little pissed? How many here have watched the auto spied vid on the new 335is and came away feeling that BMW is making the 335 just a bit too close to the M3 for considerably less money. Further, they have the thing set up with a very aggressive sports exhaust, a really nice steering wheel and a bunch of other really nice touches that are not available on the M3. There is even a button that allows 7 seconds of 375 ft/lbs of torque when you want it... awesome new headlights and interior finishes. I feel these "special" items should be reserved for those that are paying top dollar for the M cars, and I fully intend to write BMW NA (the president of North American sales, perhaps) and let them know I am not happy. I have purchased 12 or 13 BMW's going back through the years and for the first time I feel like I am on the shitty end of the stick here. Am I the only one feeling like this?
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theeeee Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: porsche Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: ny iTrader: (0)	wahhhhh wahhhhhhh stop being a crybaby we all still know that the 335is doesn't stand a chance against the m3
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cap_freez Lead, follow, or get the hell out of my way 32 Rep 429 Posts Drives: 2010 X3, 2013 RS5 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montréal, oh Canada iTrader: (0)	I still find the m3 is the better looking car and is still most probably a better all around sports car. all the other extra things on the 335is are gadgets. But you bring a valid point. the two cars are getting uncomfortably closer. will the m3 get new stuff for 2011???
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01-25-2010, 09:57 PM	#4
montreal red chris 278 Rep 12,144 Posts Drives: White Boat Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto iTrader: (31)	there'll always be newer cars that would make us feel a little 'shitty' and jealous... but think bout it... all those owners who buy the 335is would feel like crap when the BRAND NEW 3 series gets launched in 2012. their car would feel special for at most a year or a year and half after they get it... on the other hand, there wont be another m3 until at least 2 years into the new F series 3er... so that means we wont see a new m3 until 2014 or so... doesnt make me feel that shitty if you ask me. __________________ Current: 2013 F10 M5 & 2016 Mini JCW 2013 GLK350 (gone), 997.1 GT3RS (gone), 2009 WRX STI (gone), e92 M3 (gone)
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JC919 Lieutenant Colonel 72 Rep 1,804 Posts Drives: CSL Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland iTrader: (0)	Doesn't bother me in the slightest __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] 2007 GT3 Clubsport w/CGT buckets in Scotland 2003 CSL, SG, Alcon BBK SOLD 2002 M5, SSII/Blk and bone stock. In storage back home in TX 2008 M3, AW/Blk 6MT, lots of track stuff SOLD
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tuco44 Colonel 644 Rep 2,294 Posts Drives: 2018 340i xDrive M Perf Edtn Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Western Canada iTrader: (0)	Doesn't bother me, either. No problem. __________________ 2018 340i xDrive M Perf Edtn Sunset Orange Previous BMWs - 19 others since 1971.
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Green///Hell Colonel 183 Rep 2,873 Posts Drives: 991 GT3, F15 X5, 1199S Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (5)	It's still a 335 so I'm not upset I just want to know what the upgraded materials fit and finish are they talked about in the press kit?? Other than that they could keep their 7 sec of boost, its just turbo lag
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BCA Captain 21 Rep 793 Posts Drives: 2015 M3 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (1)	Doesn't bother me a bit either. I have a sedan anyway! When you really think about the things that the 335is DOESN'T have, like the M suspension bits, LSD, aggressive body and that irreplaceable V8 sound , it should bother you less and less. __________________ 2017 Porsche 911 Carrera S 2019 Porsche Cayenne Past BMWs: 2015 M3, 2014 550i, 2013 M3 ZCP, 2012 535i, 2011 E90 335i, 2009 E90 M3, 2008 X5, 2006 330i, 2004 330i Last edited by BCA; 01-27-2010 at 09:00 PM..
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NewM3driver Colonel 1110 Rep 2,008 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 ZCP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	I don't know... It has the M body kit, the M steering wheel and rims, the upgraded suspension, the DCT... all the M goodies. WHy not offer a BMW tuned sport exhaust for the M3? In the vid, the conclusion is it is all the M3 is for 9 grand less and with better fuel economy. I know there will always be the next best thing, but BMW is sold M3 customers a nice package at a hefty premium, and is now offering very similar upgrades (in some cases better) at 10 cents on the dollar. If BMW can pack all this(including 375 ft/lbs of torque and a sub 5 second 0-60 time) into the 335is for such a low price, it makes me feel I paid too much for my car.
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Gearhead999s Major General 814 Rep 7,888 Posts Drives: RR Velar R=Dynamic M2C R1200GS Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Yeah I so pissed that I ordered a E93 335is from March production to replace my wifes 07 335 E93 It will never be an M3 but it will be a very nice car to have around.I could not see the point of an E93 M3 for her anyways but then again I have never seen the point of an M3 cab.
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lebreeze Captain 162 Rep 621 Posts Drives: 18’c63s,15’macanturbo,14’ 991s Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: windsor iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 e92 m3 [0.00]	Every 335 owner would still prefer a M3. It they deny that they are lying to themselves. __________________
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valeram Major 37 Rep 1,413 Posts Drives: 992 TTS, 991.2 GT3 T, F80 M3 C Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dublin, OH iTrader: (0)	Yes it bothered me that is why I traded my 335 to an M3.
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NYSPEM3 Second Lieutenant 10 Rep 221 Posts Drives: E90 M3 DCT Join Date: May 2008 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	If I want a souped-up 335, I'd just get the 335 and spend a few thousand dollars on Dinan stuff. Not to mention that 335is is getting close, price wise, to a stripper M3 sedan. I believe C&D actually said anyone looking at a 335is coupe should just spend a little more for a M3 sedan. __________________ -------------------------------------------------- E90 M3 DCT Interlagos Blue/Silver Interior, Tech Pkg, Prem Pkg, Folddown Seats, 19"... that's it Certified V1 Zombie
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01-25-2010, 11:14 PM	#22
rzm3 Moderator 673 Rep 4,737 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (18)	An M will always be an M. BMW is not stupid enough to make a regular 3 as good as an M. Period. (If they do, then it will be time to move on.)
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