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You are missing my point. I don't think it is that simple of a choice. At least it was not for me. I am a traditionalist and do love MT cars, all may cars before this one were MT. The point I am making is that I chose DCT because of DCT, not because it is an automatic.
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Oh look, another one of these.
Hurry up and justify your e-peens before the thread is closed.
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No worries, some people are capable of making their point without being a total fanboy.
Others not so much...
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You got an 08, 6MT, non-ZCP M3? You peasant.
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To a car enthusiast like my self, i saw the DCT has a performance option. I saw the manual as a fun option. i would have been happy with either. Although like you said i would never i mean NEVER want a standard auto in this car! Back to my point about DCT being a performance option. Everything about the DCT setup is going to be better on a track, rather its a course or a drag. The location of the paddles and faster shifts. i can see someone wanting this DCT over manual being of a performance reasoning. One of the things i really hated about a standard auto was the way the car sounded, but with a DCT it actually sounds pretty nice going though gears. |
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One thing I disagree with, though, is your view that it's "lame brained" to ask for opinions from those with experience owning a transmission. I couldn't disagree more. The experiences of those, for example, who have owned one type of transmission for years, and have decided to switch, are immensely valuable. That is real world information that goes well beyond "personal preference". When I heard from drivers who admitted they missed shifting in their DCT, for example, I knew I'd likely feel the same way. Going fast isn't enough for me; I want engagement. In fact, the role such information played in my own ordering experience is why I shared it in this thread. I wish we could all just get along, including when we discuss, objectively and good-naturedly, the experiences we've had with each.
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Like the OP I own a DCT....in his position if I thought I might like to make the change to a MT, I would test drive it and then make a decision. It wouldn't occur to me to let a bunch of random people on a forum influence my decision...Sure if I wanted a recommendation for some aftermarket tat then no harm in asking - but the transmission, really?
The MT has consumable parts while the DCT doesn't, the MT's clutch and flywheel are both parts that will almost certainly need replacing once (at the very least) during the cars lifetime. The syncromesh rings also seem a little under engineered given the number of 1st to 2nd grind complaints and may well not last the life of the car. The Getrag 7DCI600 DCT is rated to handle 600nm (the M3 produces 400nm) so there is plenty of headroom. There is no pattern of hardware failure or parts wearing out in DCTs. True if something goes wrong it will be more expensive but that is why you buy a warranty. Last edited by SenorFunkyPants; 03-26-2013 at 05:25 PM.. |
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I would imagine that most every owner will need to take their M3 into a dealer/specialist to have a clutch/gearbox related issue resolved whether it is DCT or MT. I think the days are long gone when the home mechanic could pull out a gearbox and swop out syncro rings or fit a new clutch with simple garage tools over a weekend. |
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I live in Los Angeles...DCT is a lifesaver when you are caught in traffic... like... always.
When i do find some open road, tho, the stupid-fast shift speeds never ceases to make me grin. Do I miss a manual...sometimes (like on the freeway when you have to click through 4 gears on the paddles to get to 3rd...ah, first world problems). Would I switch? Hell no!
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Just floor the gas pedal (past the "kickdown" detent) and click only once .
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